You Be The Judge: Afp1996 vs Jason

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Crossfire

Actual, preterism is a system which implies Gnostic style of scriptural interpretation. It requires the understanding of hidden meanings and secret interpretations instead of seeing what the Bible clearly says. Thus, preterist interpretation is a Gnostic style of interpretation.

Your attempted deflection of the facts concerning your interpretation of scripture does not remove the fact of preterism's working to distort the preparedness of the believer, the removal of hope of Christ's return, and the literal physical resurrection and transformation of the saints from mortal to immortal. It is Gnostic, and yes, I stand by this interpretation.

Again gibberish. Nothing you are saying here is true. Your comments about Gnosticism are ridicules.

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You use conjecture as your evidence, and do so while ignoring the plain language found within the text, and then claim AFPs have a "weak and spiritually impotent" argument? You really need to stop your theatrics and get in the Book.

I am in the Bible, sir, and not in Josephus' corrupted historical accounts. I studied preterism and other such false doctrines, and know what preterists believe. I even have a copy of Smith's book on my desk beside me as we speak. The truth is, your interpretation of scripture is Gnostic. This is why it is not even closely resembled of Apostolic theology.

You have changed the second coming to a local event, instead of a global one. You pervert the resurrection. You deny the second coming as Jesus said, as well as the Apostles through the scripture.

I would advise you to cease studying Gill, Mauro, and other trinitarians, and start studying the Bible for yourself, repenting of being led astray into such false doctrine.

[afp1996]

Originally Posted by Crossfire

Actual, preterism is a system which implies Gnostic style of scriptural interpretation. It requires the understanding of hidden meanings and secret interpretations instead of seeing what the Bible clearly says. Thus, preterist interpretation is a Gnostic style of interpretation.

Your attempted deflection of the facts concerning your interpretation of scripture does not remove the fact of preterism's working to distort the preparedness of the believer, the removal of hope of Christ's return, and the literal physical resurrection and transformation of the saints from mortal to immortal. It is Gnostic, and yes, I stand by this interpretation.

this is your opinion. We do not in ay some secret mystical route to come to our doctrinal stand.

so you say Daniels seventy weeks are fulfilled. So then please show us where Matthew 24 is not fulfilled. if you see a gap then you will have to show us where that has is. this should be literally easy for you.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Crossfire, have you claimed to believe in preterism in the past? You sure sound like someone who used to post on AFF. Just wondering.

Crossfire, any reason why you did not answer this?

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

gibberish....

Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. (Titus 1:15-16 KJV)

Basically describes what the preterist response is to scriptural truth. The doctrine is false.

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Crossfire, any reason why you did not answer this?

I stated I studied the doctrine. Nothing else. why do preterists insist on putting words in my mouth? The truth is, your argument is weak, as is your doctrine.

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Well, where have you been? Are you still switching what you believe from week to week? Are you a One God believer this week or a trinitarian again? I had an idea you are Crossfire due to your flowery, theatrical statements that contain no substance (this is your always give away).

Who do you think that I am? Come now and spit it out. Who am I, since you know so much? And, what is your proof?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Crossfire

Who do you think that I am? Come now and spit it out. Who am I, since you know so much? And, what is your proof?

You in Texas?

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Well, where have you been? Are you still switching what you believe from week to week? Are you a One God believer this week or a trinitarian again? I had an idea you are Crossfire due to your flowery, theatrical statements that contain no substance (this is your always give away).

The truth is, you are engaged in a defense posture, trying to evade the points made. Your own weakness of doctrinal stance is such that you cannot stand your precious doctrine to be challenged successfully.

Now, please, before slander charges can be brought, let us continue with the discussion.

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You in Texas?

Have the admins check my IP.