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Old 04-10-2007, 11:11 PM
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See my first post in this thread ... last question .... if we know how to do good and don't do it ... it's what??????

God holds us accountable for what we know.
Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
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It sounds to me like some do not want to have any absolutes as far as scripture goes. They just want to "do what is right in their own eyes".


The bible is plain that "IF we love him we WILL keep his commandments".
Would an absoulte be a woman should not cut her hair?

That is not an absolute that is abstract.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:12 PM
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Daniel,

For once I have to state that you have missed it by a million miles on the "brother" issue but are unwilling to admit it. Ananias calling Saul "Brother" is no different than Simon Peter calling lost Jews "Brother." Yes, it was tradition. And one that they honored. In no way can such terminology be used to show one to be saved or lost.

If we assume that Ananias, in calling Saul "brother" was considering him saved, then we must also conclude that Simon considered those Jews whom he called "brother" as saved also. That just doesn't work.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:13 PM
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Jesus IS the way, the Truth and the Life...he also said if you LOVED me keep my commandments...How do we have the truth?
Is this pursuit for the love of truth .... the concept???

Paul said that he want to know Jesus in the power of his resurrection and in the fellowship of his suffering ....

I think we've become idolaters of truth .... married todoctrine ... divorced from Deity.
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But how about HIS law? Do we treat it tritely? Or do we seek to obey it and if we don't obey it or don't care about the truth are we saved or can we be saved?

I follow the salvation plan in Acts 2:38.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:14 PM
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Daniel,

For once I have to state that you have missed it by a million miles on the "brother" issue but are unwilling to admit it. Ananias calling Saul "Brother" is no different than Simon Peter calling lost Jews "Brother." Yes, it was tradition. And one that they honored. In no way can such terminology be used to show one to be saved or lost.

If we assume that Ananias, in calling Saul "brother" was considering him saved, then we must also conclude that Simon considered those Jews whom he called "brother" as saved also. That just doesn't work.
There goes the family and body of Christ argument out the window .....
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Tradition ...
While Ananias ... would have many reasons NOT TO CALL PAUL brother ... unless he considered HIM ONE ....
That doesn't explain how what I said is "dismissed"..You are implying Ananias accepted Paul as a brother in the Lord, which implies Ananias considered Paul repented of all his past deeds...so that shoots your idea in the foot. He would NOT have any reason NOT to call him a brother as a Jew...one nationally just as Peter called those other unconverted Jews and just as those unconverted Jews called Peter...clearly we can see from scriptures Jews called each other brothers for other reasons than they accepted that both were Christians



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Jesus said ... if you love me OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS ... Praxeas .... it's not done because obligation ...but because of love ....
That's right...if you really love the Lord you WILL obey Him.
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Would an absoulte be a woman should not cut her hair?

That is not an absolute that is abstract.

No, it is an interpretation. Much the same as what you are doing when you say it is the wrong one.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:15 PM
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The goes the family and body of Christ argument out the window .....
Just because Ananais called Paul a brother nationally does NOT argue against us being a family....dude you need a lesson on logic
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No, it is an interpretation. Much the same as what you are doing when you say it is the wrong one.
So it's untrue to say the cutting of hair will send a woman to hell???
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