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[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Newman

No, I am not agreeing with that. The first couple of years as an adult tend to be pivotal times. For them to pursue some special time to consecrate their life to God, could be a very good thing regardless of the occupation they end up in.

For the record though; I agree that a secular education is probably very important for most people who plan to support families and churches (assuming its within their ability to handle).

Well if my kids aren't consecrated and grounded by the time they leave high school when will they be? My pastor, Jonathan Urshan Sr says that BC is the easiest place to backslide from in the world.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Who did you and your husband assist when you left BC?

He assisted my pastor - my home church. In the course of that year he was also taking turns preaching (he and our pastor who he was assisting) at a little church a few miles out of the city. After about 6 months, perhaps less, they asked him to become the pastor. We stayed there for a short time but the work grew in that short time.

After that we assisted our DS for about a year.

One day the DS was telling him about a a church that had split and a small group of UPC people were left without a building or pastor. My husband really felt for these people and expressed interest in going to that town. So he went to meet with them, we were voted in and spent two years there.

We started out meeting in a hall, had barely enough money to make ends meet, (we had some help from our section - they paid our rent ) .... but within two years that small group of people worked together and we had purchased a couple acres of prime property - that story is a miracle story - and built a brand new building and were running over a hundred - average attendance - on Sundays!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd

I would encourage young people to seek God's will for their lives first. Then take whatever route necessary to get the type of education they need to fulfill God's will, Whether it be studying at college, learning a trade, performing an apprenticeship or starting a business.

The idea that everyone "has to go to college" is nonsense. The average pay for an architect in the US is $56,637 yr. The average pay for a level III welder is $52,820. There are plenty of ways to make a good living without spending $35,000 to get a degree.

That still requires some measure of training, even if only as an apprentice. You're kind of knee-jerking.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

PP: I have a BIL...running three businesses, that he owns, and his going to college...he's 55.

He did take a year at ABI 30 years ago.

At 39...you're just a pup...go on back to school if you can see a way.

there are on line degrees you can earn today, that give you credit if you can pass the tests with tthe knowledge you've picked up along life's way.

And a very bright pup at that, Pastor Poster! Go for it! Live a life of no regrets!

If someone could just convince the old-timers that 10 percent of a white-collar salary is usually more than 10 percent of a blue-collar salary then this wouldn't be a problem... I think the fear is that the more education one gets, the more likely it is that they will eventually leave the church... before the benefits of the white-collar salary start to show... so maybe the old-timers are right!

Oops, did I say that out loud?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Newman

And a very bright pup at that, Pastor Poster! Go for it! Live a life of no regrets!

Aren't you sweet.

I'm sorry I get so worked up over this stuff. I just want my kids to do better than me. The last thing they need is someone laying a guilt trip on them about BC.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Well if my kids aren't consecrated and grounded by the time they leave high school when will they be? My pastor, Jonathan Urshan Sr says that BC is the easiest place to backslide from in the world.

Well then, I certainly wouldn't send them to Bible School.... However, that being said; I do think there is a time between a child's independence from mom and dad and finding a spouse that will be pivotal for them.

It is preferable I would think to having some special consideration as to God's design on their life; and ideally an ENVIRONMENT that would support their spiritual growth.

[Felicity]

This has been a great thread!

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Howdy All,

I am checking in from youth convention where the predominent theme has been "holiness". You would not EVEN believe some of the junk that has come over the pulpit here.

Last night the speaker told the teens they need to go to bible college. He stated that parents should push them to this, and that if parents choose secular college over bc they are wrong. He also stated that kids and parents should be proud if the highest level of education they receive is a GED.

I was a little bit more than upset.

Oh, we've also had a preacher call Anna Nicole a whore from the pulpit.

I'm so thankful for the in depth teaching they have been receiving.

Let me start by saying that I don't agree with the BC thing. My son will start college this fall to become a history professor, he wants his PHD. My daughter on the other hand wants to go to TBC.

I would love to know where this meeting is. I have just about given up on UPC youth meetings. There is on going on here now and I was told that last year they had strobe light and smoke and that kind of thing along with the wild music.. Well my kids are not there now and won't be unless things changes.


I would like to know there there is a meeting that preaches holiness and such. If nothing else pm me.

[berkeley]

How many kids will miss the will of God for their lives because they decided to go to BC??