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View Poll Results: Are you a one-stepper or a three-stepper?
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I am a one-stepper.
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I am a three-stepper.
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I am uncertain which category I would be.
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11-18-2008, 09:57 PM
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Jesus is the Christ
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Re: What are you? One stepper or Three stepper
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I think I am becoming an "End Stepper". Unless you get born again, and stay in a right relationship with God, you will be lost.
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Do you believe it can be considered gloring in oneself -- if one claims he/she was the one who has endured to the end?
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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11-18-2008, 09:59 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Re: What are you? One stepper or Three stepper
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Originally Posted by bkstokes
Matt
Do you believe it can be considered gloring in oneself -- if one claims he/she was the one who has endured to the end?
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I don't know about you friend.
But I know my robe of white is going to fit me.
Because I have tried it on at the "Gates of Hell".
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11-18-2008, 10:18 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sparta, TN
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Re: What are you? One stepper or Three stepper
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Originally Posted by bkstokes
Matt
Do you believe it can be considered gloring in oneself -- if one claims he/she was the one who has endured to the end?
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No, because those that "continue on to know the Lord" will continue to see more clearly that it is not them, but Christ, that holds them as they journey through this life, and that without His mercy and grace they know they would be lost.
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11-18-2008, 10:39 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Re: What are you? One stepper or Three stepper
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Doing good. Work has kept me busy for a little bit, but is slowing to a fast pace now.
How is everything with you folks?
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Great here. Busy, busy though.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-18-2008, 10:46 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Re: What are you? One stepper or Three stepper
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I think I am becoming an "End Stepper". Unless you get born again, and stay in a right relationship with God, you will be lost.
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I hear you.
It is strange how, in some ways I have come back to beliefs I had prior to becoming Pentecostal. My former denomination does not spend much time proclaiming one is saved now, but they take very seriously the task of faithfulness to the end.
May God grant us all humility to cling to Him and endurance to the very end.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-19-2008, 10:26 AM
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Jesus is the Christ
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Re: What are you? One stepper or Three stepper
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I hear you.
It is strange how, in some ways I have come back to beliefs I had prior to becoming Pentecostal. My former denomination does not spend much time proclaiming one is saved now, but they take very seriously the task of faithfulness to the end.
May God grant us all humility to cling to Him and endurance to the very end.
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Amen!
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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11-20-2008, 01:43 PM
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Re: What are you? One stepper or Three stepper
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Originally Posted by LUKE2447
I think you miss my point and I apologize for not making myself clear.
Who is doing the work in baptism God or me? See this is a deep theological problem as you just placed your response = to God's work and that is not the case. Baptism is essential to remission of sins but it is not your work that does it but your reliance on him "to do" it. Our Faith/proper response meets God's Work. He is the author and finisher of your response. Thus God speaks his Word(author) and completes(finisher) his promise through your response. Though you may be active, you are passive in the realization of being declared loyal/righteouss/friend etc... Thus it's his glory to do so!
My point of passive is that I don't in myself wash the sins away through faith. Faith, repentance, confession, baptism etc.... does not make us righteouss. Christ's declaration make us righteouss. Just as Romans 8 points out about the Spirit bears witness to our faith/response. It's his witness or declaration that saves but faith/response is the vehicle or element that brings forth evidence for judgment. They are conditions we meet in response to the authoring of salvation by God's Word that Christ might be the finisher in declaring us righteouss/loyal/faithFULL/. Baptism is the appointed time of remission of sins through faith in the working of God. It is not our declaration in baptism but our faith in him that he delcares our response of good conscience, righteouss.
God is logical in all things he is not whimsical. The simple question of did you receive when you believed per Paul in Acts 19 clearly shows it is based on "faith" what the context of faith is another thing but God will answer those who call on his name thus he is boxed in. God is boxed in on everything as he is a God of law and his nature does not change. Thus he is not contrary to himself. "One must be born of water and Spirit", that is a box.
I agree!
I agree!
I would disagree "faith" is the "to do" list. What is faith? Proper response to the Gospel/Word.... Acts 2:38
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I have pasted this post in email format and will study it along with the Bible.
I will strive to avoid purposely finding scriptures to disprove your good points.
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