My Church is the Only One That is Right

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No Acts 2:38 is the new birth that places one INTO the church. A woman who has obeyed Acts 2:38 becomes a member of the NT Church in the church the are commandments to obey one of them is for a woman notto cut her hair. She cannot disobey God's commandments and be saved.

I agree with your last statement, however I disagree with your apparent assertion 1 Corinthians 11 represents a clear "commandmant" that is salvific. Paul is clearly beating around the bush here and doesn't come out and say anything like Romans 1:32 (and its context) and Galatians 5:21.

When he wants to say "If you fail to keep this commandment you will NOT inherit the kingdom..." Paul doesn't mince words or beat around the bush. At others times he is rather dismissive of details. 1 Corinthians 11 appears to be one of those "other times" when he just isn't being emphatic about the point in question.

For example, in Paul's view, baptism seems to be essential in establishing a new Christian's identity: Romans 6:4 and Colossians 2:12. However, whether or not someone was personally baptized by Paul himself in unimportant: 1 Corinthians 1:16. He dismisses the issue of "who is of Paul" with a wave of the hand. "Who cares..." he seems to be saying. "You weren't baptized in the name of Paul anyhow..."

Since the Corinthians had obviously asked Paul a question about women having stuff on their heads (1 Corinthians 7:1 and following) he acknowledges the question. It may be that those from Chloe's house reported something as well (1 Corinthians 1:11). But whatever prompted the issue, Paul didn't raise the question himself. And when he does address the question, he takes pains to point out the underlying principles ("the head of every man is Christ..." etc) but then he seems to dismiss the discussion almost as if with the wave of a hand ("... but we have no such custom, nor the churches of God...").

It's really hard to get a "commandment" for women to NOT cut their hair out of this passage. In fact it's hard to find any commandment at all other than the underlying principle that "Christ is the head."

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

It's really hard to get a "commandment" for women to NOT cut their hair out of this passage. In fact it's hard to find any commandment at all other than the underlying principle that "Christ is the head."

You're just not trying hard enough!

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I agree with your last statement, however I disagree with your apparent assertion 1 Corinthians 11 represents a clear "commandmant" that is salvific. Paul is clearly beating around the bush here and doesn't come out and say anything like Romans 1:32 (and its context) and Galatians 5:21.

When he wants to say "If you fail to keep this commandment you will NOT inherit the kingdom..." Paul doesn't mince words or beat around the bush. At others times he is rather dismissive of details. 1 Corinthians 11 appears to be one of those "other times" when he just isn't being emphatic about the point in question.

For example, in Paul's view, baptism seems to be essential in establishing a new Christian's identity: Romans 6:4 and Colossians 2:12. However, whether or not someone was personally baptized by Paul himself in unimportant: 1 Corinthians 1:16. He dismisses the issue of "who is of Paul" with a wave of the hand. "Who cares..." he seems to be saying. "You weren't baptized in the name of Paul anyhow..."

Since the Corinthians had obviously asked Paul a question about women having stuff on their heads (1 Corinthians 7:1 and following) he acknowledges the question. It may be that those from Chloe's house reported something as well (1 Corinthians 1:11). But whatever prompted the issue, Paul didn't raise the question himself. And when he does address the question, he takes pains to point out the underlying principles ("the head of every man is Christ..." etc) but then he seems to dismiss the discussion almost as if with the wave of a hand ("... but we have no such custom, nor the churches of God...").

It's really hard to get a "commandment" for women to NOT cut their hair out of this passage. In fact it's hard to find any commandment at all other than the underlying principle that "Christ is the head."

Good luck, Pel.......unfortunately, some folks will refuse to be confused by the facts!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Good luck, Pel.......unfortunately, some folks will refuse to be confused by the facts!

Not me! I let facts confuse me all the time!

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by warrior

How can people come up with this statement and believe it themselves?

1. Your church has been around less than 100 years.
2. Only you and the 10,00 people in your Diocese know about your church.
3. What about those who will never hear about your church? Will they be lost too?
4. Why doesn't the Bible mention anything about your church?

We are all comming to the full knowledge of Jesus,to the full stature of Jesus.If any man thinks he has full truth or understanding,he is deceived.I doubt i'll know everything before I die.The important thing is,anything your nor sure of,don't say anything.

1Cor.8
[2] And if any man think that he knoweth anything, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

Eph.4:11: And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12: For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ