This was not a smart idea. Not very well thought out.
If he keeps making missteps like this (he's made quite a few so far) I can see John McCain beating him.
Obama and his people are still underestimating McCain.
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
What Obama is doing is creating the aura of inevitability. Its a subtle way to associate with the office. The problem is, it clearly shows a willingness to tamper with sacrosanct American Icons.
It is further proof that Obama's view of America isnt in keeping with Americas view of America.
Frankly I am more offended with Americans chanting "Yes we can" to a man seeking to return to the failed policies of Herbert Hoover, John Kennedy, and Jimmy Carter.
But this tampering with the seal of the United States of America proves a certain irreverence that goes to the heart of what Obama is, and what he seeks to do.
But the fact that political propaganda is being used is nothing proprietary for fascism.
You saying it is wrong for him to do something, is fascism.
BTW his political stance is FAAARRRR to the left of Hoovers right wing views.
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lets be clear about something.
when an ordinary individual doesnt salute the flag at a ball game it is shows a certain disrepect for America but we live in a land of real freedom where many of us have fought to preserve the rights of freedom that include behaving boarishly.
but when a politician does not salute the flag it is a public statement. It is a direct comment on their feelings about the subject of pratriotism in general.
Barak does not get to simply "be like everyone else" Barak is interviewing for the most important job on the face of the earth.
he gets no mulligans. He gets no do-overs. he made the statement when he did not salute the flag. It was a statement compounded by his unwillingness to not wear the flag lapel pin. it is a statement at the heart of the brand of liberalism he follows.
It is a brand that believes that "Americana" itself is at the heart of all the evil in the world.
That is HIS WORLD VIEW.
and remember he is interviewing for a job. You make no false moves, and you send clear signals when you interview. He certainly has done that. and they are signals that sound an alarm in my head.
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I am offended by his podium choice, tstew! A diehard American isn't going to change the breastplate on the Eagle!!!! Sorry, bad judgment. I don't care how you look at it.
PO, once again I don't believe it was smart, but it was done by his entire campaign which includes many diverse and politically savvy "diehard" Americans. However that is a far cry from claiming that he wants to change the actual Presidential seal. Once again it is the law that prevents him from using the actual seal and if he could have I'm sure he would have in his attempt to look Presidential.
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No, no, no, no!!! It is CUSTOMARY for all politicians. There is no excuse, unless, he is wanting to make a statement. We have found out:
Ridiculous for a politician to take that stand. He knows what it means to be an American, therefore, I conclude, it is not important to him.
Honestly, this discussion has made me definitely look into Mr. Obama deeper, but I am still convinced that there are folks out there who will criticize him no matter what, just like I am now convinced that there are folks who will give him a "pass" no matter what.
The way our govt is set up, even if Mr. Obama is the anti-christ, there is only but so much he can do as the elected President-- alot of the pandemonium out there concerning this man and what could happen if he is elected is hogwash.
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lets be clear about something.
when an ordinary individual doesnt salute the flag at a ball game it is shows a certain disrepect for America but we live in a land of real freedom where many of us have fought to preserve the rights of freedom that include behaving boarishly.
but when a politician does not salute the flag it is a public statement. It is a direct comment on their feelings about the subject of pratriotism in general.
Barak does not get to simply "be like everyone else" Barak is interviewing for the most important job on the face of the earth.
he gets no mulligans. He gets no do-overs. he made the statement when he did not salute the flag. It was a statement compounded by his unwillingness to not wear the flag lapel pin. it is a statement at the heart of the brand of liberalism he follows.
It is a brand that believes that "Americana" itself is at the heart of all the evil in the world.
That is HIS WORLD VIEW.
and remember he is interviewing for a job. You make no false moves, and you send clear signals when you interview. He certainly has done that. and they are signals that sound an alarm in my head.
This was not a smart idea. Not very well thought out.
If he keeps making missteps like this (he's made quite a few so far) I can see John McCain beating him.
Obama and his people are still underestimating McCain.
What confuses me is that just a little while ago McCain was a joke even in the GOP. I remember a time early in this campaign when his even his staff and supporters were bailing on him. There was footage of him at an airport by himself while on the campaign, waiting on his bags and leaving unaccompanied if I remember correctly. I'm not sure what happened but I think the GOP would be in much better shape if they had selected a stronger candidate.
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Honestly, this discussion has made me definitely look into Mr. Obama deeper, but I am still convinced that there are folks out there who will criticize him no matter what, just like I am now convinced that there are folks who will give him a "pass" no matter what.
The way our govt is set up, even if Mr. Obama is the anti-christ, there is only but so much he can do as the elected President-- alot of the pandemonium out there concerning this man and what could happen if he is elected is hogwash.
Yes, but the main thing is that his campaign for change has NO substance! He is the most liberal in his voting!! That means so much!
McCain has 85%, at least, conservative voting record. He is a patriot. So, we can't do worse with him in the White House.
Here we have a man that the major media sources are saying - What is this guy about?
He won't go to townhall with McCain, because that is McCain's strong suit. He, as last reported, wants to do that on the evening of July 4th when everyone is busy. We won't be home that day, either.
He's chicken because he's great with a speech, but he can't go off the cuff.
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Originally Posted by Ferd
lets be clear about something.
when an ordinary individual doesnt salute the flag at a ball game it is shows a certain disrepect for America but we live in a land of real freedom where many of us have fought to preserve the rights of freedom that include behaving boarishly.
but when a politician does not salute the flag it is a public statement. It is a direct comment on their feelings about the subject of pratriotism in general.
Barak does not get to simply "be like everyone else" Barak is interviewing for the most important job on the face of the earth.
he gets no mulligans. He gets no do-overs. he made the statement when he did not salute the flag. It was a statement compounded by his unwillingness to not wear the flag lapel pin. it is a statement at the heart of the brand of liberalism he follows.
It is a brand that believes that "Americana" itself is at the heart of all the evil in the world.
That is HIS WORLD VIEW.
and remember he is interviewing for a job. You make no false moves, and you send clear signals when you interview. He certainly has done that. and they are signals that sound an alarm in my head.
He was in the front, how many times have you not solute until you noticed the one person that did remember? I have done this many times!
If Barack didn't love this country as much as you or I he wouldn't be doing what he thought was better.
He doesn't hate America or the people in it, this country has built a reputation on allowing people to make it different AND THAT IS WHAT HIS CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT! Change...
Like I said I am not an Obama supporter but this is ridiculous, don't vote for him if you don't want to but he is not unpatriotic or crazy, he wants to change the country to what he thinks is better, like any other president that has ever been elected.
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Originally Posted by tstew
PO, once again I don't believe it was smart, but it was done by his entire campaign which includes many diverse and politically savvy "diehard" Americans. However that is a far cry from claiming that he wants to change the actual Presidential seal. Once again it is the law that prevents him from using the actual seal and if he could have I'm sure he would have in his attempt to look Presidential.
That's all I can see, tstew. That's all I can see - the bold words.
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