Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

Yea he did more...like having affairs and oh shall we name the things... but hey if thats the type of people you approve of you go right on ahead now ya hear!

A lot of political leaders have affairs...even King David, a man after God's own heart. Clinton's sin found him out. It's over and done. I'm a little embarrased that so many Republicans capitalized on his sin for political gain. It was the Republicans who pushed to have all the details laid out over television and radio for our children to hear. They should have issued a Congressional denunciation and moved on. We really didn't need to know all that.

Men are fallible, flawed human beings. I'd much rather a President have a private moral issue and some marital problems to work out than a warmongering, war profiteering, insanely spending Administration that is just out of touch with reality.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

it's not like you answer the phone anyways JUST KIDDING.

Ok....so we can be friends....who would you have me vote for?? (Aren't you glad I started this thread....I was/am seriously considering voting for Barak)

when did i not call you back?????

vote for ANYONE but Muslim!!!!!You wait till i tell our mutual friend here what you said !!!!

[StMark]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

No...what's frightening is when God's people tell lies and propagate gossip and rumors.

It's ok to say that you just don't like the guy. It's ok to say that you disagree with some of his ideas and liberal Christian beliefs, I definitely do. However, don't propagate lies about people. We're supposed to be Christians.

Here's a good reason to vote Obama....I think McCain isn't going to pull it off, the Republicans have an extremely low approval level. So really our choices for President are Obama or....Hillary. Frankly, I'd take Obama over Hillary. It would almost make more sense to vote Obama just to make sure Hillary doesn't get control of the White House.

Oh, and for you guys concerned with universal health care...Hillary has a mandate requiring everyone buy a plan regardless as to if you get the public plan or the private plans that are currently available. Obama doesn't. He has more of an optional system where if you want it and can't afford it there's a national plan you can opt into. Or... you could choose not to have health insurance at all. Obama's policy isn't so expansive.

LOOSE HIM AND LET HIM LIVE!!!!


HEAL HIS MIND LORD!!!!!



IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME WE PRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[Aquila]

Obama's not Muslim. A leftwinger, sure, but not Muslim. That's all been exposed for the internet rumor that it is. I'm seeing a lot of lying going on here. Where there is lying, there is other sin.

StMark prove that what you say about Obama is true. Present to us your sources.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by StMark

check out the beliefs of the united church of christ

You are right. I forgot about that.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Thank you, thank you, thank you for understanding what I'm trying to say. We can not like someone or their policies without lying about them. C'mon guys...we're Christians...not Republicobots.

Amen.

[StMark]

Well at least we know who is Pro-Islamic on the forum now

[George]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Some of the quotes were clearly taken out of context. The others mean nothing. His father and step father were Muslims...big deal.

Without sounding callous, did you have a father in your life or were you raised by a single mother? Most children are so greatly influenced by their father and become who their parents are.

[George]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

They are in doctrine like a lot of other protestant churches except for the afro-centric theme...where did you see that they perform same sex ceremonies?

Muslims baptize? And if they do, so what if he was baptized as a child. He never hides the fact that his father and step father were muslim and that he went to a muslim school for a short time?

Visit his church website and read about the staff. They have a minister for "same gender loving couples."

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by StMark

Well at least we know who is Pro-Islamic on the forum now

I'm not Pro-Islamic. I understand that you sincerely don't like Obama. That's fine. I'm just saying you've not offered a strong case for slandering him as a Muslim and you are leaning on internet rumors that have been debunked on Snopes.com and FactCheck.com. C'mon St.Mark, don't say that about me.