Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I haven't read this whole thread, but the "preacher" who disrupted and caused the scene has a horrible spirit!

It's one thing to disagree, but to publicly be disobedient to the extent of being disruptive is not Christ-like.

I may have an opinion that God is not pleased with the Tulsa meeting, but it would be arrogant of me to say that God was not there! After all, God is everywhere!

THREAD HIJACK AHEAD WARNING;

Pianoperson, Mrs. CC1 said your new granddaughter is beautiful! I can't believe you didn't show me the pic.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by CC1

Logic?

ROFL!

And I thought I was bad!!!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

ROFL!

And I thought I was bad!!!

You are!

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by CC1

You are!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by CC1

THREAD HIJACK AHEAD WARNING;

Pianoperson, Mrs. CC1 said your new granddaughter is beautiful! I can't believe you didn't show me the pic.

Pictures? New grandbaby?

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I haven't read this whole thread, but the "preacher" who disrupted and caused the scene has a horrible spirit!

It's one thing to disagree, but to publicly be disobedient to the extent of being disruptive is not Christ-like. I may have an opinion that God is not pleased with the Tulsa meeting, but it would be arrogant of me to say that God was not there! After all, God is everywhere!

I agee with you PM...

and although SS was obviously disruptive and in the wrong spirit... I found it odd that he would even care to be there.... he's been out of the upc a long while. He was always going against the grain however...

To his credit, he is a well educated man... awesome bible teacher and was a very good friend to my dad back in the day.

[The Dean]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I want to address this, because the accusation of these men being control hungry keeps coming up.

From my understanding of reading on this, the formation of this org is set up as such that there are "term limits" on the leadership. Of the Executive Committee, every year, one of the originals will be removed by lot every year, and cannot hold a position for at least one year. This assures that there will be no "Original 6" keeping control in the org.

So tell me, If this is all about control and position, why would the Original 6 create bylaws that will in effect take them out of the leadership position after so long?

That makes too much sense to be accepted by the armchair quarterbacks and conspiracy theorists. You must be deceived.

You're obviously a control freak for being the head Administrator anyway.

[The Dean]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

If you are speaking of the Tulsa 6 there is NOT a chance that it is about conviction. It is absolutely 100% about control and men having power.

I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

JM, you are quickly cutting off the hand that could feed you. I dare say the churches you can evangelize in will dimish quickly..... but carry on for all the 40 or so new members who will read your posts here.

I TOTALLY AGREE.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by CC1

I appreciate yoiu stepping out on a limb and making these bold predictions!

No guts, no glory. I've seldom been accused of playing it safe.

[Apprehended]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by The Dean

I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

You totally disagree?

Then, if you TOTALLY disagree, just how thin can a group split hairs and still be right with their convictions? Just how thin indeed?

Based on convictions alone, shall we burst apart, form separate denominations, organizations, votiing caucuses based on each and every lil' ol' conviction that might loom so greatly in a little mind while it is only hardly worth a mention in a larger mind?

Are convictions right and holy if a break up occurs over wine vs. juice? How about a huge break up over Trib vs. Post Trib.? Just how small can a mind get before these issues become stumbling blocks over which fellowship is no longer acceptable?

If the principles of being in one mind and in one accord in regard to the basics of the gospel that Jesus gave us, is not the ruling CONVICTION, these other so called convictions ARE NOT convictions AT ALL. They are issues of CONTROL at worst, or the product of a deceived heart based on illusions of grandeur and personal importance at best. When one is so deceived as to believe that "I alone know what is best for God's people," their estimation of themselves ranks equal to God. They have forgotten the way of humble service and submission.

On a former post, I got a little radical...which is not hard to do when such issues are presented as grave as the break of fellowship over such STUPID considerations. Truly God is EVERYWHERE, even as David said, though he descended to the lowest hell, he is there also. I should not have made the statement that "God was not there," technically speaking. However, I will say that God is NOT PLEASED.

David got a little radical when he said that all men are liars. I might not get that radical but like two fishermen were talking when one said to another, "All men are liars except you and I...sometimes I wonder about you." Doubts whether or not God is in CONTROL, distrust sewn among bretheren, discord as a result of a vote, passion generated by letter writing, separation from bretheren and collapse of the house of peace is a sure indication that the racket heard is a fox in the hen house.

Darkness is of both mind and spirit. It takes darkness to hide the stealthiness of the working of the enenmy. Yes, God was there but the heat felt was not the heat from heavenly light. There is another source of heat.