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01-10-2008, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Are you sure Jesus played games?
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Oh, sure. Stir it up.
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01-10-2008, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Politics is a fact of life.
Politics are in every social setting imaginable - including the church. And that is the way it will be until Jesus comes.
That is the nature of people, and Jesus knew how to "play" the game of politics well.
Politics isn't always a bad thing.
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Politics includes the following; deception, intimidation, lying, cheating, backstabbing, selfishness, pride, arrogance and on and on and on....our Lord knew no sin and neither was guile found in his mouth.
Sorry, I would vehemently disagree with your post. I know Jesus, He lives in me and He doesn't play mind games.
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01-10-2008, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by staysharp
Politics includes the following; deception, intimidation, lying, cheating, backstabbing, selfishness, pride, arrogance and on and on and on....our Lord knew no sin and neither was guile found in his mouth.
Sorry, I would vehemently disagree with your post. I know Jesus, He lives in me and He doesn't play mind games.
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Staysharp, you are describing "dirty politics". Not all political activity is dirty. Maybe alot of it, maybe even most of it. Compromise and political activity can both be good if used to bring about unity and help people get along. JMO Jesus was being 'politic' when He spared the woman taken in adultery by saying what He said.
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01-10-2008, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Theophil
Staysharp, you are describing "dirty politics". Not all political activity is dirty. Maybe alot of it, maybe even most of it. Compromise and political activity can both be good if used to bring about unity and help people get along. JMO Jesus was being 'politic' when He spared the woman taken in adultery by saying what He said.
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Not all political activity is dirty? 99.95%...
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01-10-2008, 09:15 PM
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99.95% of politicians give the rest of them a bad name
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01-10-2008, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
99.95% of politicians give the rest of them a bad name
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You got that right!
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01-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Gee... skeptical aren't we?
Many of these men have been in ministry 30-40+ years and have an extensive knowledge of the Bible.
So it shouldn't be surprising that they can give a good biblical definition/explanation of "The Word", and "Jesus Christ".
The definitions they gave were solid and fairly thorough, but I wouldn't think it displays a "surprising level of sophistication". These men are not biblical/theological lightweights, even though we might disagree with them on certain issues.
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I agree with you. Mine was a "happy" kind of surprised.
And that language is really new to most Oneness Apostolic Articles of Faith. I haven't personally seen a lot of acknowledgement of the complexities within the Godhead since the PCI Manual from the 1930's and 1940's.
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01-10-2008, 09:43 PM
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Non-Resident Redneck
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
The word you accused me of using is not in that post.
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Deception and lying are synonyms.
Are you trying to be a legalist?
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01-10-2008, 09:46 PM
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Non-Resident Redneck
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Exactly!
Remember back in October when we were told they had no intention of forming an organization? Prominent members of this board tried very hard to call the rest of us liars when we pointed out their intentions.
Tell me, were they lying then, or just horribly mistaken and blind?
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We were inclined to believe what we were hearing then.
I am of the opinion that this has evolved into something beyond what the original intent was, at least for most of the men.
Maybe I am just gullible, but I don't lie.
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01-10-2008, 10:06 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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I am not UC by any long shot but if these good men want their own organization I support their right to do so.
If God is in this ,we can't fight agains't but if God is not in this then it won't stand anyways
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