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05-29-2007, 05:54 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Child
Sex before marriage is fornication, which is a sin. If you ask for forgiveness you will receive it but you will have lost something that you will never regain.
Even if you marry the person you had sex with it was still wrong. Sex is to come only after marriage.
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Amen and some open up a pandora's box of emotions before they are ready.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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05-29-2007, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicity
I thought I read one time that the Jewish custom allowed for premarital sex after "betrothal". I've never studied this out. I could be mistaken.
Anyone else know if this is true or not?
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Would not Joseph then have thought that Jesus was his and it would have been pointless for the angel to come to him and convince him to marry
Mary?
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05-29-2007, 08:25 PM
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Sister Alvear
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But under Jewish laws if she was not a virgin there was a high price...So the fact remains God smiles on those who KNOW HOW to keep their body under subjection. Usually who fools around with one before marriage will fool around with another. That is not always true but in many cases that we have seen in the past 40 years that is usually the case.
It would seem to me that the sexual sins are some of the most life stainning sins for they follow a person where ever they go. The talk after years is always there. I have worked with people especially during our years in the south that never got over sexual sins...
But thank God there is forgivness and a person has to be willing to pay a high price, have a humble spirit and those are the ones that come through. Those that want to blame their sins on others or compare their sin with sins of others usually don't make it...
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05-29-2007, 08:26 PM
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Sister Alvear
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I think that is why David made it...He did not blame his sin on others or compare himself with others... Ps. 51 is a deep look into the heart of David.
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05-29-2007, 08:28 PM
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Sister Alvear
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He said my sin is forever before me...he did not try to run from his sin he lived among the people where the sin was committed so that the people could have faith in him. Study the life of David...Renew in me a right spirit...
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05-29-2007, 08:30 PM
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Sister Alvear
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He prayed for a clean heart...He could have blamed Nathan for not just coming out front...BUT David confessed his sin...that is the key...He was REALLY sorry not just sorry he got caught.
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05-29-2007, 08:35 PM
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Sister Alvear
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One of the hardest things for men and women to do is to repent of their sins. Repentance is a direct challenge to man's will power. It demands that he humble himself before God, and give up everything that is contrary to his will. The holy demands of repentance have kept many of the highminded out of the kingdom of God.
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05-29-2007, 08:42 PM
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Sister Alvear
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People that repent their whole attitude changes and remains changed. A person may quit sin and yet not repent toward God. The person may quit because that particular sin renders him/her unpopular in the church or among associates. Thus, the person may reform his life for selfish reasons, but such reformation is not repentance. Simply stated, repentance is a change of mind, or will, based upon godly sorrow ( II Corinthians 7:10), and resulting in a manner of life directed by Christ ( Acts 26:20). When it does not happen like this usually real repentance is missing and many people become bitter and in time lose out with God. Repentance must be real. Someone once asked me how can we tell? Sometimes we cannot tell at the moment but time reveals if repentance was for convenience or if it was really real.
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05-29-2007, 08:45 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Once I heard the story of a man weeping at the alter asking God to forgive his sins...Someone walked over to his wife who was just standing looking on and wondered why she was not rejoicing that her husband was praying and repenting of his sins...She looked at the person and said, "He is not sorry, he is praying like because I walked in on him sinning today..." All his tears were not for the real purpose...
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05-29-2007, 09:23 PM
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Sister Alvear
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We need to be thankful for friends like Nathan
a. Caring enough to bring our faults to our attention
b. Courageous enough to challenge our conduct
2. We need to be like David
a. Open to the constructive criticism of others
b. Not so blind as to fail to see our faults when pointed out
by others
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