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Evang.Benincasa · #**1181** 07-26-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Is obedience to the bible salvational??

Ask him a month from now.

CC1 · #**1182** 07-26-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Any preacher who has heard the Oneness message, rejects it, and teaches others Trintarian doctrine - including an invalid baptismal formula - will go to Hell.

Let me make sure I understand you correctly.

Suppose an AOG preacher who is a trinitarian and baptizes "In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, which is Jesus Christ" happens by a typical UPC confernce of some kind where the preacher is screaming out the usual red meat about Oneness, Acts 2:38, and Jesus Name baptism to get the crowd going so he can feel the gratification of their response.

The AOG hears this sermon on Oneness in this service but does not change and start preaching it to his congregation. His saints are baptized in a formula that includes Jesus name and they are filled with the Holy Ghost. They are all going to hell in a handbasket?

Brother Price · #**1183** 07-26-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bill why is God using pork eating pagans to do His bidding? It is obvious that God is commander over everything and uses everyone, but their outcome will not be the outcome of the rightcheous.

2Ch 35:20-21

"After all this, when Josiah had prepared the temple, Necho king of Egypt came up to fight against Carchemish by Euphrates: and Josiah went out against him. But he sent ambassadors to him, saying, What have I to do with thee, thou king of Judah? I come not against thee this day, but against the house wherewith I have war: FOR GOD COMMANDED ME TO MAKE HASTE: FORBEAR THEE FROM MEDDLING WITH GOD, WHO IS WITH ME, THAT HE DESTROY THEE NOT."

Isa 45:1

"Thus saith the LORD to HIS ANOINTED, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;"

Jer 27:6

"And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, MY SERVANT; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him."

I'm no Elder to you, no one is an elder to you Bill.

Wow! That's harsh! But, oh well. God uses whom He uses, but now His Spirit is poured out upon all who believe in Him. Who is the Him? Jesus. Scripture declares that we are to repent of our sins, confessing them, and believe solely upon the Lord Jesus Christ for our salvation.

Actually Elder, one more thing... I happen to have an elder over me, a godly man who is like a father to me, and is willing to pray for me.

Thanks for responding... though you could not openly and directly give me a full response, thanks anyway.

Brother Price · #**1184** 07-26-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Is obedience to the bible salvational??

StMatthew, your interpretation of the Bible is not necessarily the right one. Remember, our modern Oneness message was silenced for almost 1600 years. Now, are we willing to say that God did not have a witness during that time?

BTW, thank you for being cordial with me, and engaging intellectually as a schaolar and a good man. I really appreciate that.

Brother Price · #**1185** 07-26-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ask him a month from now.

He asked me now, Elder. Now, can you openly and directly answer the question I posed earlier?

Thank you.

stmatthew · #**1186** 07-26-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price

StMatthew, your interpretation of the Bible is not necessarily the right one. Remember, our modern Oneness message was silenced for almost 1600 years. Now, are we willing to say that God did not have a witness during that time?

BTW, thank you for being cordial with me, and engaging intellectually as a schaolar and a good man. I really appreciate that.

So Jesus Name Baptism is not correct??

Brother Price · #**1187** 07-26-2008, 10:28 PM

BTW, despite what is being said here, I want to openly say that I do respect Elder Benincasa for his stances on his beliefs. We may disagree, but he will defend his beliefs as best he can, and that is honorable.

Nahum · #**1188** 07-26-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Any preacher who has heard the Oneness message, rejects it, and teaches others Trinitarian doctrine - including an invalid baptismal formula - will go to Hell.

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Originally Posted by CC1

Let me make sure I understand you correctly.

Suppose an AOG preacher who is a trinitarian and baptizes "In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, which is Jesus Christ" happens by a typical UPC confernce of some kind where the preacher is screaming out the usual red meat about Oneness, Acts 2:38, and Jesus Name baptism to get the crowd going so he can feel the gratification of their response.

The AOG hears this sermon on Oneness in this service but does not change and start preaching it to his congregation. His saints are baptized in a formula that includes Jesus name and they are filled with the Holy Ghost. They are all going to hell in a handbasket?

I never said anything about a handbasket.

I believe anyone who has heard who Jesus is, and rejects that message and teaches a heresy, is hellbound.

It's more than just a formula.

Brother Price · #**1189** 07-26-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

So Jesus Name Baptism is not correct??

Jesus name baptism is correct, but not a salvation issue.

StMark · #**1190** 07-26-2008, 10:30 PM

Are ya'll still arguing over BOOMM'S Email or something else??

there's been too many post since earlier today and I don't

have time to catch up.

If you're not fighting about the email I'm not interested