Tithing…Is it a command? - Page 119

Amanah · #**1181** 02-28-2017, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

Careful. You might get screamed at like I was last night by an Assemblies of God minister. He insisted Jesus instructed us to tithe in the New Testament in Matthew 23 when he said "this ought ye to have done" to the Pharisees. I politely pointed out the context of the statement (addressed to Law keeping Pharisees) and the guy freaked out screaming, "You can't use this as a loophole not to tithe!" He simply did not see the irony of his statement and that he was the one trying find a loophole to justify his stance.

I'm inclined to think that house churches which eliminate the need to maintain buildings, thus eliminating the financial pressures that make tithing necessary, are a good idea. The constant need to expand/maintain facilities is a heavy load.

And then when I see the extravagant life styles of some of the mega church pastors, I feel like people are being robbed to enrich the ungodly.

When I give sacrificially, I don't want it to be used frivolously. I don't really care If your kids have an outstanding wardrobe, fantastic vacations and an ivy league vacation.

jediwill83 · #**1182** 02-28-2017, 10:49 AM

Look I've been as anti tithe as anybody could be. I've been without a job for about 3 months and my wife isn't working. Yesterday we received a unexpected blessing and we decided to tithe in food and money. It's not because we feel it's required it's of our own free will without fear of threats or curses and we are doing it gladly and willingly.

Originalist · #**1183** 02-28-2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83

Look I've been as anti tithe as anybody could be. I've been without a job for about 3 months and my wife isn't working. Yesterday we received a unexpected blessing and we decided to tithe in food and money. It's not because we feel it's required it's of our own free will without fear of threats or curses and we are doing it gladly and willingly.

I think that is fine.

Amanah · #**1184** 02-28-2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83

Look I've been as anti tithe as anybody could be. I've been without a job for about 3 months and my wife isn't working. Yesterday we received a unexpected blessing and we decided to tithe in food and money. It's not because we feel it's required it's of our own free will without fear of threats or curses and we are doing it gladly and willingly.

you have a sweet spirit, that the Lord will bless

I on the other hand have a bad attitude sometimes when trying to pay tithes, offerings, missions, building fund, ect, ect, and it's never enough.

Esaias · #**1185** 02-28-2017, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I'm inclined to think that house churches which eliminate the need to maintain buildings, thus eliminating the financial pressures that make tithing necessary, are a good idea. The constant need to expand/maintain facilities is a heavy load.

Rudy · #**1186** 03-01-2017, 03:16 PM

LOL oh this silly discussion on tithing money. It's odd that no one brings up the fact that Yeshua didn't receive tithes directly. Or did he pay tithes (unless he grew a garden).

Everyone did not tithe under the law as commonly believed.

good samaritan · #**1187** 03-01-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I'm inclined to think that house churches which eliminate the need to maintain buildings, thus eliminating the financial pressures that make tithing necessary, are a good idea. The constant need to expand/maintain facilities is a heavy load.

And then when I see the extravagant life styles of some of the mega church pastors, I feel like people are being robbed to enrich the ungodly.

When I give sacrificially, I don't want it to be used frivolously. I don't really care If your kids have an outstanding wardrobe, fantastic vacations and an ivy league vacation.

House churches are great if you can fit the Church in your locale. I don't think that a building is that big of a financial burden if good stewardship is used. The building should be accommodating for the assembly, but when the focus becomes on maintaining a building rather than the assembly then we have lost the point. Sadly much of the churches have errored in this way.

Tithing is a personal choice that I believe that God will honor if the heart of the giver is not in error. I don't believe that we are to tithe to obey the law or to go to heaven. For me personally it is a way to honor God for my increase. It is misrepresented and manipulated by many, but for someone to freely choose to tithe out of a sincere heart it is a good thing.

Much of the anti tithe sentiment on here sometimes fails to realize that many people tithe freely and without compulsory. While trying to refute those who teach tithing we must also not be a stumbling block who sincerely give a tithe of there increase. The NT does command church contributions.

Jito463 · #**1188** 03-01-2017, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan

Much of the anti tithe sentiment on here sometimes fails to realize that many people tithe freely and without compulsory. While trying to refute those who teach tithing we must also not be a stumbling block who sincerely give a tithe of there increase. The NT does command church contributions.

Amanah · #**1189** 03-01-2017, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan

House churches are great if you can fit the Church in your locale. I don't think that a building is that big of a financial burden if good stewardship is used. The building should be accommodating for the assembly, but when the focus becomes on maintaining a building rather than the assembly then we have lost the point. Sadly much of the churches have errored in this way.

Tithing is a personal choice that I believe that God will honor if the heart of the giver is not in error. I don't believe that we are to tithe to obey the law or to go to heaven. For me personally it is a way to honor God for my increase. It is misrepresented and manipulated by many, but for someone to freely choose to tithe out of a sincere heart it is a good thing.

Much of the anti tithe sentiment on here sometimes fails to realize that many people tithe freely and without compulsory. While trying to refute those who teach tithing we must also not be a stumbling block who sincerely give a tithe of there increase. The NT does command church contributions.

true

KeptByTheWord · #**1190** 03-04-2017, 10:16 AM

Tithing is not a NT concept, but giving was. Giving to fellow brothers and sisters. Giving to help the needs of those in ministry. But not once is a specific amount mentioned, nor a mandatory command given either.

If we love one another, we will give as the Lord has blessed us.

Those who support the tithe doctrine can't back it up in the NT. They must resort to the OT in order to prop it up, and as Rudy has said, where do we have any record that Jesus tithed? Or Paul?

But we do find Paul teaching on giving as the Lord has blessed us. Giving is a NT concept, but tithing is not.

We must support those in ministry, to bless, encourage and support them as they labor in the gospel. We need to support our fellow brothers and sisters in need. We need to give. Whether you find you want to follow the 10% concept as a baseline amount to give, not a problem. Just don't make tithing part of the salvation message.