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Old 12-13-2013, 05:13 PM
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Mmm, or accepting the mis-translations of the Scriptures that God gave us, too--don't forget that one.
Oh, definitely, yes! And likewise, accepting the mis-omniscience and the mis-omnipotence regarding those same <<mis-translations of the scriptures>> is not to be forgotten either!

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Old 12-14-2013, 12:16 PM
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Oh, definitely, yes! And likewise, accepting the mis-omniscience and the mis-omnipotence regarding those same <<mis-translations of the scriptures>> is not to be forgotten either!

i'm afraid that is just wishful thinking. At the very least, if your position is 'how do you know?' then the same pov must be applied here; whereas at the subjects of heaven and hell, it can easily be shown that there are other, possibly more valid conceptions. Our definition of 'eternal' seems to be restricted to 'forever,' when it might easily mean 'always occurring,' which will alter ones pov of these concepts considerably.

We are taught that 'good' people, who go to church and conform, go to heaven, and 'bad' people got to the 'other place,' lol; and they are as far apart as East and West in our minds--but not in Scripture. There are many indications of levels of both, although they may be polar opposites. What we teach children of heaven and hell is ridiculous, and only supported by the most superficial scanning of the Bible.

The (newly deceased) Samuel--who is a type for 'accepted by God'--channeled by the Witch of Endor, gave us, through Saul--a type for 'rejected by God'--a plain view of life after death, wherein Samuel tells Saul, in reply to 'What will happen?'--"You and your sons will be here with me, ..."
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:21 PM
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Um, but assuming a lack of Omniscience for God is naive, i'm afraid, after one sees the relentless attempts to discredit the Book of Daniel. It was believed that Daniel must have been written after the earlier prophecies in it had come true, since it was so accurate. And believe me, greater minds than ours tried really hard to discredit it. Fascinating story.

Wadr, when i hear people suspecting the Bible, now, i just kinda smile. It is to laugh, really.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:45 PM
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ha, just asking the hard ones, here...
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:39 PM
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Thought I might post a weekly (or so) essay, Bible study, story, joke, or whatever, for your enjoyment. This week's topic:


Doubting Thomas

Thomas got a bum rap. It so happened that he wasn't present when Jesus first appeared to the rest of the disciples. We all know the story: when they told Thomas that Jesus was alive, he didn't believe them. But what about the others? Even Mary had to see and hear Jesus before she knew He had risen. When she told the disciples, they didn't believe her! Mark 16 says Jesus appeared to two others, who also told them about it, and they still didn't believe. It wasn't until Jesus showed up in person that they believed.

It was exactly the same for Thomas, except he had the bad luck of being somewhat chided by Jesus for not believing what he heard. "Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." So he gets the dubious honor of being known as "Doubting Thomas". But why not add the tag to all of the disciples? Why not Doubting Peter, Doubting John, etc.? I wonder if they squirmed a little, when Jesus was picking on poor Thomas, realizing that they were guilty of the same thing.

Of course, why Thomas was singled out and given his embarrassing nickname isn't the important thing. We shouldn't miss the bigger point being made: that we should always believe whatever people tell us, even if there is no evidence to see or substance to touch.

Today, we are all in the same boat with Thomas. Or, rather, the boat he was in until he actually saw Jesus, and from that standpoint, Thomas was very lucky indeed. We don't have the luxury of doubting until we see Him. Our only option is to be in that "blessed" group of folks who just believe what we're told. We have to have more faith than any of the disciples did.


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Old 01-11-2014, 12:41 PM
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That's good stuff!
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What you are called to have faith in is that Love your neighbor is stronger than Law of the jungle, it seems to me. And note that no one is twisting your arm either way?
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Do you have to get wet to be saved?


Yes, in so far that people who believe in myth-based worldviews quickly become Omni-aqueous (all wet.)

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Yes, in so far that people who believe in myth-based worldviews quickly become Omni-aqueous (all wet.)

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Yes, in so far that people who believe in myth-based worldviews quickly become Omni-aqueous (all wet.)

And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity.

And so I saw MarcBee buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and he was forgotten in the city where he had so done: this is also vanity.
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