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Old 10-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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You're probably right sis, I apologize.
You are not the one that needs to apologize.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:15 PM
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When I comes to The USA and it's freedoms we all play by the rules.

This has nothing to do with COOPER against any group.

If you are any kind of illegal alien you are a law breaker.

If you want to live in the USA; do it the right way.

If you are in the USA and can not speak English; 99.9 percent of the time you are illegal weather you are Russian, African, Cuban, French or Mexican.

This shows your dis-respect to USA and it's freedoms if you agree that any alien de-serves to stay in the USA.

Jesus can save them in their own land.

Christians should never harbor illegal's in the name of Salvation.


Teach them Jesus, but then teach them to obey the Federal laws of Immigration.
Even some legals don't know the language very well.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:27 PM
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You are not the one that needs to apologize.
I am not racist.........you comments are reverse racism.

My point is; if you want to live in the USA learn English and not impose any other language on the USA.

THIS THREAD was started about Hispanics....it seems you have a problem with a non-Hispanic speaking his mind.

I am tired of reverse racism.

You are out of line not me.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:29 PM
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Even some legals don't know the language very well.
I never was good at spelling.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:31 PM
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I never was good at spelling.
Are you an illegal too?
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:30 PM
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Consider that in a Hispanic church like the Spanish Assemblies it's the Hispanics that lead and everyone else follows. Is that something to make a big deal over?

In the PAW it's mostly blacks that lead and everyone else follows.



Sorry for the late reply to this post I just noticed it.
But brother the Spanish Assemblies and the PAW promote and reach to specific races, Mexican American and the African Americans respectively.
When you mention either one everyone automatically knows what race makes up each org BUT the UPC since inception has never promoted itself as a caucasian only entity and in fact the opposite is true, and it is not seen like that so your arguement here is very shaky using this example.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:17 PM
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I am not racist.........you comments are reverse racism.

My point is; if you want to live in the USA learn English and not impose any other language on the USA.

THIS THREAD was started about Hispanics....it seems you have a problem with a non-Hispanic speaking his mind.

I am tired of reverse racism.

You are out of line not me.
You love this country so much and you don't even know that english is NOT the official language of the USA.........
The USA never has adopted an official language because it is a country of IMMIGRANTS....

let me ask you something, when your European ancestors came over did they seek legal status from the Native Americans????

Your ancestors came in and took over.

I too am putting you on ignore.
Why don't you go witness to somebody about Jesus rather than check for green cards?
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:50 PM
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Consider that in a Hispanic church like the Spanish Assemblies it's the Hispanics that lead and everyone else follows. Is that something to make a big deal over?

In the PAW it's mostly blacks that lead and everyone else follows.



Sorry for the late reply to this post I just noticed it.
But brother the Spanish Assemblies and the PAW promote and reach to specific races, Mexican American and the African Americans respectively.
When you mention either one everyone automatically knows what race makes up each org BUT the UPC since inception has never promoted itself as a caucasian only entity and in fact the opposite is true, and it is not seen like that so your arguement here is very shaky using this example.
Actually PAW does not stand for Pentecostal African Whatever....

Second what if the UPC reaches to a specific race...white? Would that bother you? Though the SAs and the PAWs reach to just Hispanic and African respectively? The PAW is a mostly black organization the same way the UPC is a mostly white organization. It was blacks that started the PAW and whites the UPC. At one point the white PCs and the Black PCs (PAW) tried to unite but they found the American society by and large was not receptive to an integrated church. But for all the clamor over what the UPC does the UPC is an actually pretty integrated church compared to some other exclusive PCs like the PAW and the COGIC.

The same issue would exist in all those churches....because the constituency is mostly one race..

It was, at one time, well known that the UPC was a white church and the PAW a black church. It's a matter of numbers, not race.

As I said once before...I was witnessing to a black person who told me that she drove by our church several times and did not know her kind was welcome here. There is no sign that says "white church only", but the truth is in many areas across our nation, blacks go to black churhes. Whites to white. Hispanics to Hispanic churchs and then there are those that are a mixture. Some that is NOT about the UPC itself. It's about our culture/society.

BTW as mentioned before, here in Ca we have many Hispanic pastors and preachers (licensed) as well as others just working in the ministry. My friend just started a work in a town not to far from where I live.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:34 PM
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Alot I know is the blood of Jesus Christ can cleanse all people regardless of the pigment of their skin.God only has children.
I'm from the deep south,and sadly alot of notions about race were passed on to me due to ignorance, so I find sometimes I have to rid myself of stinking thinking.
Alot of things that some of my family taught was due to fear and ignorance.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:37 PM
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You love this country so much and you don't even know that English is NOT the official language of the USA.........
The USA never has adopted an official language because it is a country of IMMIGRANTS....

let me ask you something, when your European ancestors came over did they seek legal status from the Native Americans????

Your ancestors came in and took over.

I too am putting you on ignore.
Why don't you go witness to somebody about Jesus rather than check for green cards?
My European ancestors were Irish. The came over on a steam ship. Checked in at New York, became US citizens, drove a wagon train the West Virginia, started a General store and married a Cherokee.

I am part Native American and none of my Irish relatives were Illegal.

My wife and kids are Registered Choctaw.
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