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Old 08-17-2007, 11:39 AM
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Exactly... I do believe we are to forgive even if they haven't asked for forgiveness or even manifested repentence at all.


Sorry Renda... this is a good thread and I am just now reading through it.. I'm a day late I guess.
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I think I have clarification after reading all these great posts.

I feel that I have forgiven the person in my past, but I will NEVER be able to trust him again. Or, maybe in due time I can once he's proven himself, but not sure that's going to happen anytime too soon.

I see too where we have to guard our hearts even though we have forgiven someone. The danger lies in associating yourself with these type people if they remain unrepentent.

In the case with the kid's dad, we will have to interact, but I will always be guarded. It's really sad in a way.
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:44 AM
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Renda,

I read through a great portion of this thread and was touched by the honesty of many who posted. I didnt realize some of the difficulties they had faced but was amazed how God brought them through.


Lisa thank you for bring up that scripture and sharing your own personal struggle helping your girls forgive their dad, I too am a child of divorce. The Message of Forgiveness as really helped heal those wounds.

Forgiveness to me is the one thing that resembles Christ the most.
The crimes and injustice done against us are worthy of punishment, that's what makes forgiving so powerful, because they dont deserve forgiveness, in the natural sense.
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:48 AM
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Is there such a thing as just not caring that the person hurt you? I mean, you don't forgive them because you just don't care, not because you are holding unforgiveness inside?
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Is there such a thing as just not caring that the person hurt you? I mean, you don't forgive them because you just don't care, not because you are holding unforgiveness inside?
Whoa, good question!

I would think there are people in our lives like that, but I would also have to believe there wasn't a close relationship or hurt from that person, so it's easy to just not care one way or the other.

The people that we love the most, hurt us the hardest.
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:56 AM
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Agreed, FB, and may I say that it is nice...mighty nice to see you posting again!!
Good to see you too Barb... I don't always have much time to read/post in the day here at work. Things were a little slow here the last couple of days... and I took my break time.
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Whoa, good question!

I would think there are people in our lives like that, but I would also have to believe there wasn't a close relationship or hurt from that person, so it's easy to just not care one way or the other.

The people that we love the most, hurt us the hardest.
Isn't that the truth!
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:04 PM
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Is there such a thing as just not caring that the person hurt you? I mean, you don't forgive them because you just don't care, not because you are holding unforgiveness inside?
Like forgiving them just because they were being stupid?

I think its easier to forgive someone for being careless, than perhaps abuse, betrayal ect.
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Whoa, good question!

I would think there are people in our lives like that, but I would also have to believe there wasn't a close relationship or hurt from that person, so it's easy to just not care one way or the other.

The people that we love the most, hurt us the hardest.
I ask because people have asked if I have forgiven my father. Well, I can't say that I have, but then again, I just don't care. He is nothing to me and always has been. To this day he wants nothing to do with me or my children, even though I'm the only grandchild of 15 who has constant contact with his mother....my grandmother. And her and I get along great.

But back to the question....do I truly have unforgiveness? I've been told that a lot of my problems stem from the hurt he caused.....but again, I don't care and never have.
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Like forgiving them just because they were being stupid?

I think its easier to forgive someone for being careless, than perhaps abuse, betrayal ect.
There is no doubt that he was stupid, but how can you be hurt by someone who's never been a part of your life, yet that lack of participation affects you negatively?
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