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Old 07-18-2007, 12:30 PM
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I think the Holy Ghost in us is the best judge of modesty for ourselves. I think that some people ignore the still small voice in favor of vanity and I think for others God may be dealing with other issues in their life that are more of a priority for them at that time.

I had a friend who from all I could see was very sincere in her walk with God but wore some clothes that did not fit my code of modesty and it really bothered me. God basically told me to worry about myself and He could deal with her about it in His time.
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:58 PM
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I think the Holy Ghost in us is the best judge of modesty for ourselves. I think that some people ignore the still small voice in favor of vanity and I think for others God may be dealing with other issues in their life that are more of a priority for them at that time.

I had a friend who from all I could see was very sincere in her walk with God but wore some clothes that did not fit my code of modesty and it really bothered me. God basically told me to worry about myself and He could deal with her about it in His time.
wow, there really is a god, i can confirm that for you friend, he has told me many times to mind my own business, and never judge anyone, modesty is good and is necessary, god will guide us, if we let him, amen, dt
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:17 PM
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Yes - I believe in modesty.

(To answer the thread)

I believe very strongly in another related word - moderation. IMO, this is an essential ingredient when praying through personal standards and outward application of inward holiness.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:31 PM
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To read some of the "arguments" (for lack of a better word and one that won't get me in trouble", one might be led to believe some where don't believe in modesty at all.

Should we dress and act modestly? And if so, how do you go about deciding what is modest and what is not?
I don’t know of any living person who refers to themselves as Christ- like or worldly at that, who does not practice modesty of some sort or other. What we have in the ranks here are those who believe this is some special sign from God as who His chosen people are, so anything that does not fit into their so-called dress standard teachings of man made by-laws is deem as lost and unsaved, in no way our they modest! This view is very narrow minded in it's thinking and understand of Gods ideals of what factors into being truly righteous and saved~


A MAJOR ANTHROPOLOGICAL PHENOMENON




There is no human society without modesty. However this field of human psychology is questioned little by science. Modesty is a double emotional movement which affects both the heart and the body. The variety and variability of its manifestations renders it much elusive. It is not known if it occurs by itself or in reaction to an insult. It is not known if it has natural roots or if it is the result of a thousand-year-old oppression. There is no human world without modesty, but a very small number of researchers is interested by this phenomenon unknown to all other living beings on the Planet.

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Modesty....don't leave home without it.
Modesty....it's the real thing.
Modesty....we'll leave the light on.
Modesty....just do it.
Modesty....strong enough for a man, but made for a woman

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It's not just praying about things like externals in regard to holiness issues. Scripture is pretty direct in what it has to say about some things. Other things I think we need to seek for God's approval and pleasure 'case I want to please Him.

Part of pleasing Him is obeying Him.

Part of obeying Him is submitting to His will and purpose.

Part of submission is going the second mile against our own will and desire.

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Re: Do you believe in modesty

Women today do not dress in "modest" apparel according to the definition of "modest" in dress and adornment as it was understood by the Apostle and the Roman Empire, in which the Early Church lived.

The Roman Empire had a class system, but we don't. Roman law defined "modest" and "immodest." Women can be defined most clearly in the roles of meretrices and matronae, that is, either as prostitutes or as respectable, married women. Women were described as belonging to one or other social group, at either end of the social scale. The status of the common prostitute was in direct appostition to the Roman matron. Pudicitia, or purity and modesty of manner, was the chief virtue of a Roman matrona. "Modest" applied to the matrons, and "immodest" applied to prostitutes.

"Modesty" in dress and adornment was NOT a "holiness standard" but the SOCIAL CONVENTION of the time. According to T.A.J. McGinn in Prostitution, Sexuality, and the Law "The lex lulia specified certain articles of clothing -- such as the stola and vittae -- as peculiar to matronae and forbade these to be worn by prostitutes." The respectable woman's outer garments were a tunica, which from the 1st cen. BC, came to be called stola and a palla. The stola was a long, loose gown that came to the feet, and the palla was an outer garment that might cover her head. The long dress falling down to her feet and the large mantle drawn over the head epitomized modesty. A woman of the class of respectable, married women did not expose any more of her body in public that a Catholic Nun does today.

If a woman wished to be considered respectable, she did not dress ostentatiously. 1 Tim. 2:9 and 1 Peter 3:3-6 is referring to ostentation --the characteristic of the high-class prostitutes -- the hetairai. 1 Timothy was sent to Ephesus where thousands of high-class prostitutes were attached to Diana's temple.

Everyone knew what "modesty" in dress and adornment meant. The Apostles did not create a special dress code for Christian women, who were matrons and already dressed "modestly," to cause them to stand out in a separate class from the rest of the Empire's class of matrons. The "separation" was not between Christian women and the "world" but between them and prostitutes.

The Greek word translated "modest" is kosmios which means "orderly, i.e. decorous." The English word, "decorum," means propriety and good taste in dress." The English word, "orderly," means "neat; well-arranged." The English "propriety" means "conformity with what is proper or fitting or with accepted standards of behavior. ...accepted standards of behavior in polite society." The English word "decent" means "not obscene; conforming to approved social standards; respectable." Another word in the same word group as kosmios is kompsoteron, which means "well dressed, i.e. nice." The Apostles simply said for women to dress decently and with propriety. "Modest" in dress and adornment in the Roman Empire had its bearing in SOCIAL CONVENTION. If modern day women dress themselves conservatively, or in conventional dress, they are dressed "modestly."

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