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Old 07-15-2007, 03:40 PM
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Spirits are men and women. They are very often seen by the natural eye. They have been known to purposefully make themselves visibile to the natural eye. All through the O.T., this is noted. It happens very often today as well. I've seen them. My son related an encounter with a spirit that severely rebuked him when he was a young teenager, sending him home with a sharp rebuke. That rebuke from a tall man (spirit) saved him a great deal of grief.

These spirits (both men and women) are among us as ministering spirits who are the heirs of salvation.
I'd be interested in seeing where a female spirit is seen in the Bible.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:42 PM
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Gender, as far as people are concerned, is an aspect of sexuality. It's a physical attribute. Spirits don't have gender but male and female people have spirit and soul. Their physical makeup make them distinctive.

That an angel can take on a human form does not mean that the spirit itself has gender
Clinically looking below the waist line, we find absolutely nothing differently about Jesus, the Lord, who is that Spirit than myself, including a navel button. This can be said of angels too. I am speaking anatomically of course. Certainly there is no procreation in the spirit world. All of that 'messin' around is done here. As far as sexuality is concerned, Jesus noted that there was neither male nor female. I am sure he had marriage and procreation in mind, in regards to sexuality but not in regards to gender. The subject underconsideration was marriage and divorce.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:42 PM
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Gender, as far as people are concerned, is an aspect of sexuality. It's a physical attribute. Spirits don't have gender but male and female people have spirit and soul. Their physical makeup make them distinctive.

That an angel can take on a human form does not mean that the spirit itself has gender
I would add that the angel or spirit taking on a gender is for our benefit, not for theirs, because gender is needed only for procreation, and spirits don't do that.....or so I've heard.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:43 PM
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Angels sure don't procreate do they ?
I hope not....LOL!

Since they are all male, who would they procreate with???
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:44 PM
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I am amazed at the extent some people will go to -to prove their point.
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I am amazed at the extent some people will go to -to prove their point.
Amazed? I'm over that already.....LOL!

Nothing amazes me anymore.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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Was Jesus male before He was born?

What purpose does gender have in heaven?
Was Jesus Jesus before he was born? NO! Jesus was not Jesus until he WAS born.

There is no purpose for "sexuality" in heaven, but we are made after the figure of Him, (Jesus) that was to come.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:49 PM
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Was Jesus Jesus before he was born? NO! Jesus was not Jesus until he WAS born.

There is no purpose for "sexuality" in heaven, but we are made after the figure of Him, (Jesus) that was to come.
And how do we know that God has gender, and how is that gender determined?

Gender in humans is seen at birth in only one place on the body, and other than blood tests, that's the only way to positively identify someone's gender.

How is this applied to God, even the Spirit of God, considering that the only purpose for gender is procreation?
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:54 PM
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What was male, the deity or humanity of Jesus?
Jesus IS diety. He is the ONLY diety. Jesus IS a man. He, Jesus the MAN, is God almighty having become one with His Father and having been GIVEN all power both in heaven and in earth. The LORD is THAT spirit.

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Our language doesn't allow us to understand the lack of gender assignment in referring to personalities. Most, if not all, languages don't allow for that. We don't understand a genderless being.
I certainly understand the limitations of the human language, especially my own. You are right. We do not understand a genderless being. Jesus and angels are beings. We cannot think of them as being genderless. They have gender. Often the bible speaks of an angel being a MAN. The MAN Gabriel, for instance. Gender is ascribed to him.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:55 PM
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Some of you need to burn your Bibles and buy one from these people.


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