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Old 06-29-2007, 03:29 PM
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Not that I believe you to be correct in that statement but it really isn't relevant. We're talking specifically about the call to the work of pastor (bishop/overseeing elder) and at least some of the qualifications for that role are male-specific (I'd even say they were specific to married males). Since a person must have all of the qualifications to be qualified to fill the role, women are automatically excluded.
To be honest, I don't care whether you believe me or not. Its in the book, search it out for yourself.

But as for it being "irrelevant", you are dead wrong. Read the TITLE of this thread again Chan. This thread is primarily about what a person CALLS themselves, not what role a person fills. People call themselves alot of things but that doesn't mean they necessarily fill the role.

The rest of your "male-specific" comments are like an 8 track tape - old, worn out, and ready for the trash can.
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:31 PM
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Miss Brat and Felicity,

Good posts, but do you think the pastor's wife should be called Pastor too?
The thread actually asks if she is "entitled to call herself Pastor"....that's different from others calling her Pastor ________.

So...I don't think its wrong to call the pastor's wife "pastor", if she's a pastor. If a woman introduced herself to me as "Pastor ______", then I would feel obligated to call her that, because common courtesy says that you address folks in the manner in which they introduce themselves to you, unless they give you permission to do otherwise. However, if I later found out that she wasn't actually a pastor, I would inwardly object. I doubt I would do otherwise just to make a point.

I do not think a pastor's wife is "entitled" to call herself Pastor simply because her husband is a pastor, and without any other qualification. I would question her character if she demanded that saints address her in such a manner.

This is completely theoretical on my part, because I've never attended a church with a female pastor or female associate pastor.

What others choose to call her and what she chooses to call herself are two different things. When others choose to bestow respectful titles or labels, that speaks well of that person. When a person chooses to bestow lofty titles or labels upon oneself, that [often] speaks ill of that person. Or maybe just sometimes.

So whether its alright for a pastor's wife to be called "pastor" is one question...whether its alright for her to call herself that is another, and it would depend on what her husband and the church thinks about it. Quite frankly, I don't think it is okay, unless both her pastor(husband) and her church give her permission to do so. Or at the very least, I think its in bad taste.
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:33 PM
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:36 PM
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On another note, I call my pastor "brother X" I am not going to call his wife "Brother X"
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:49 PM
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The thread actually asks if she is "entitled to call herself Pastor"....that's different from others calling her Pastor ________.

So...I don't think its wrong to call the pastor's wife "pastor", if she's a pastor. If a woman introduced herself to me as "Pastor ______", then I would feel obligated to call her that, because common courtesy says that you address folks in the manner in which they introduce themselves to you, unless they give you permission to do otherwise. However, if I later found out that she wasn't actually a pastor, I would inwardly object. I doubt I would do otherwise just to make a point.

I do not think a pastor's wife is "entitled" to call herself Pastor simply because her husband is a pastor, and without any other qualification. I would question her character if she demanded that saints address her in such a manner.

This is completely theoretical on my part, because I've never attended a church with a female pastor or female associate pastor.

What others choose to call her and what she chooses to call herself are two different things. When others choose to bestow respectful titles or labels, that speaks well of that person. When a person chooses to bestow lofty titles or labels upon oneself, that [often] speaks ill of that person. Or maybe just sometimes.

So whether its alright for a pastor's wife to be called "pastor" is one question...whether its alright for her to call herself that is another, and it would depend on what her husband and the church thinks about it. Quite frankly, I don't think it is okay, unless both her pastor(husband) and her church give her permission to do so. Or at the very least, I think its in bad taste.
That's what I think too - just because she's the pastor's wife doesn't automatically entitle her to be considered a pastor.
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:01 PM
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Is it by Entitlement or Hard Work?

Let me ask this...

I could see someone earning this title by working hard at home and at church.. but are they just entitled to it by being married to the Pastor?

Does your Pastor's Wife call herself Pastor?
No, and no.
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:03 PM
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That's what I think too - just because she's the pastor's wife doesn't automatically entitle her to be considered a pastor.
I personally don't know anyone that actually did that, but the frame of mind was present.

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Old 06-29-2007, 04:26 PM
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I am deeply thankful for my pastor´s wife Sister Myrna Loy Taylor. In fact I owe much to her for her love and concern for me when I was just a child.
I am deeply thankful for Sister A O Holmes the pastor´s wife of the christian school I attended many Years ago...She is in her 80´s now.
Where would I have been without these 2 godly pastor´s wife´s and many more in my life.
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:37 PM
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lots of titles are used today that are not in the Biblical but that does not make the title wrong...I don´t like titles but if people use them then I respect their custom.
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:40 PM
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I would prefer that the pictures were all together in one thread. Or maybe the Admins could figure out a way to set up a slide show.
Iam not trying to make a slide show Just fitting in a few pictures on different threads.
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