Will drinking beer send you to hell?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Amanah

do addictions of any sort send you to hell?

My assumption is that you and myself are in the same chain of thought.

We’re (or they are) having a discussion about weather drinking beer will send you to hell? Like all discussions the topic of beer will eventually lead to another topic, and that would be, eating too much, wine, dip etc...

This is my thought on the matter. I wonder if you ask this question to a sinner that is familiar with addictions, what his response would be? I’m working with a young man right now from the jail ministry that has been addicted to meth for over 9 years. As of right now he has been clean for almost 3 months, this is the longest he has been clean from that drug for over 9 years! Where did it all start? It all began by smoking a single cigarette! Contrary to popular belief one addiction will lead to another! Heard a young lady say, “I’m no longer on crack, I just started smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day”, and I’m not exaggerating.

Will drinking a beer send me to hell? My question to you is, why would you want to? In my experience there is always a reasons for a question, some may want to justify what there doing, some are curious. I counsel this way, and you take it for what its worth. I believe in open doors, and allowing yourself to drink a beer, or smoke a cigarette will lead to other sins. There are those that may drink a beer, smoke a cigarette, etc. they may not be addicted to that drug, but that opened a door to “other” sins. Ive talked to them in the jail, out of the jail, in the church, out of the church and they all tell me the same thing, I never thought it would lead here! The Bible says,

Matthew 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

We’re not to just pray that we enter not it into temptation, we’re suppose to watch as well. We should understand if we do this, were is this going to lead, what other doors are going to open because of this. The Bible doesn’t have to say if this is wrong, this is right,

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Someone will say, well the Bible doesn’t tell me this is wrong, so I guess I can do it? Do you really want to live like that? Was the Bible written to you, or for you? Jesus said I will lead you into all truth. We get into trouble because we stop counseling with our God. We no longer ask him, if this is good for us. Then we find ourselves in sin, and wondering how we got here. If we would allow the spirit to teach us and minister to us we would not be in the position we find ourselves in at times.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

I agree with you nDavid. But the Sister’s question was do “addictions of any sort” send you to hell. I would say no to that.

Coffee? It IS addictive.

Coffee is not an addiction, caffeine in an addictive.

ad·dic·tion
/əˈdikSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: addiction; plural noun: addictions
the fact or condition of being addicted to a particular substance, thing, or activity.

If your addicted to caffeine, its wrong. We as the church should have no chains on us!

[Amanah]

Does this verse apply?

Corinthians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

My assumption is that you and myself are in the same chain of thought.

We’re (or they are) having a discussion about weather drinking beer will send you to hell? Like all discussions the topic of beer will eventually lead to another topic, and that would be, eating too much, wine, dip etc...

This is my thought on the matter. I wonder if you ask this question to a sinner that is familiar with addictions, what his response would be? I’m working with a young man right now from the jail ministry that has been addicted to meth for over 9 years. As of right now he has been clean for almost 3 months, this is the longest he has been clean from that drug for over 9 years! Where did it all start? It all began by smoking a single cigarette! Contrary to popular belief one addiction will lead to another! Heard a young lady say, “I’m no longer on crack, I just started smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day”, and I’m not exaggerating.

Will drinking a beer send me to hell? My question to you is, why would you want to? In my experience there is always a reasons for a question, some may want to justify what there doing, some are curious. I counsel this way, and you take it for what its worth. I believe in open doors, and allowing yourself to drink a beer, or smoke a cigarette will lead to other sins. There are those that may drink a beer, smoke a cigarette, etc. they may not be addicted to that drug, but that opened a door to “other” sins. Ive talked to them in the jail, out of the jail, in the church, out of the church and they all tell me the same thing, I never thought it would lead here! The Bible says,

Matthew 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

We’re not to just pray that we enter not it into temptation, we’re suppose to watch as well. We should understand if we do this, were is this going to lead, what other doors are going to open because of this. The Bible doesn’t have to say if this is wrong, this is right,

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Someone will say, well the Bible doesn’t tell me this is wrong, so I guess I can do it? Do you really want to live like that? Was the Bible written to you, or for you? Jesus said I will lead you into all truth. We get into trouble because we stop counseling with our God. We no longer ask him, if this is good for us. Then we find ourselves in sin, and wondering how we got here. If we would allow the spirit to teach us and minister to us we would not be in the position we find ourselves in at times.

So then WILL drinking beer altho you dont get drunk send you to Hell? Is that your conclusion?

[Amanah]

The Top 15 Most Dangerous Drugs
Drug overdoses are now the leading cause of accidental death in the United States. In fact, more Americans die of drug overdoses than in car accidents each year. In light of these staggering statistics, 24/7 Wall St. recently conducted a new study that reviewed and categorized 25 of the most dangerous drugs and drug mixtures. Researchers took into account side effects and death rates tracked by the federal government, as well as potential risk of drug combinations measured by medical information organizations and web sources such as MedScape, WebMD, and the American Medical Association.
The substances on this list span well-known prescription medications, infamous street drugs, and lethal combinations of both. Many of these drugs are generally considered to be safe when taken on their own and under the correct conditions. However, all drugs can be fatal when too much is taken or combined inappropriately with other substances.
Here are the top 15:

1. Acetaminophen (Tylenol)
Common names for Acetaminophen include Tylenol, Mapap, and Feverall. This drug is regularly used for pain relief and is considered to be the most dangerous on this list due its potential to cause liver damage and toxicity. Acetaminophen is the nation’s leading cause of acute liver failure, according to data from an ongoing study funded by the National Institutes for Health. Analysis of national mortality files shows about 450 deaths occur each year from acetaminophen-associated overdoses; 100 of these are unintentional. Analysis of national databases also show that Acetaminophen-related overdoses account for about 50,000 emergency room visits and 25,000 hospitalizations yearly.

2. Alcohol
Alcohol includes all types of beer, wine, and malt liquor. Alcohol ranks second on this list due to the extensive health problems and injuries associated with use. An estimated 88,000 people die from alcohol-related causes annually. In addition to causing health issues such as cancer, liver damage, hypertension, heart disease, and fetal damage, alcohol abuse increases the risk of injuries, suicide, violence, and motor accidents. Due to these factors, excessive alcohol consumption is the third-leading cause of death in the United States.

3. Benzodiazepines
Benzodiazepines, sometimes called “benzos,” are anti-anxiety medications that include Xanax, Valium, and Klonopin. Benzodiazepine drugs rank high on this list due to the high prescription rate and increased risk of deadly respiratory depression that occurs when taking the medications. The risk of experiencing negative side effects is significantly heightened when combined with other drugs, particularly barbiturates, opioids, and alcohol. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), benzos were involved in 31% of all overdose deaths during the year 2017.

4. Anticoagulants
Common anticoagulants include Warfarin, Xarelto, and Heparin. These medicines are used to prevent blood clots in patients that are deemed at-risk for clotting. Anticoagulants rank fourth on this list due to the serious health conditions that can result from use, such as strokes, transient ischemic attacks (TIAs), heart attacks, deep vein thrombosis (DVT), and pulmonary embolism. When combined with Aspirin and other blood-thinning drugs, anticoagulants can also cause fatal internal and/or external bleeding.

5. Antidepressants
Common antidepressants include Cymbalta, Wellbutrin, Prozac, and Zoloft. Antidepressant drugs are commonly used to treat major depression and mood disorders, but are also occasionally prescribed for attention deficient hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), and anxiety disorders. These drugs are high on this list due to the adverse health effects long-term use can have on consumers. Those taking antidepressants have a 33% higher risk of dying prematurely than people who are not taking the drugs. Additionally, antidepressant users are 14% more likely to have an adverse cardiovascular event, such as a stroke or heart attack.

6. Anti-Hypertensives
Anti-hypertensives are a class of drugs that are used to treat hypertension (high blood pressure), such as Hytrin, Cardura, and Minipress. These drugs have been linked to cardiovascular issues, acute renal failure, prostate cancer, and new-onset diabetes in consumers – all of which can result in death. When combined with NSAIDs or diuretics, the possibility of experiencing these health risks is amplified and can lead to fatality.

7. Bromocriptine
Bromocriptine, also known as Parlodel, is used to treat symptoms of Parkinson’s disease and hyperprolactinemia (high levels of a natural substance called prolactin in the body) including lack of menstrual periods, milky discharge from the nipples, infertility, and hypogonadism. Bromocriptine ranks seventh on this list due to the potential severe health side effects that can occur in patients, such as lethal circulatory collapse. Systematic hypotension has also been documented in about 33% of people taking the medication. Additionally, the drug has been associated with somnolence, and episodes of sudden sleep onset, which has resulted in dangerous encounters and motor vehicle accidents.

8. Clarithromycin
Clarithromycin, also known as Biaxin, is an antibiotic used to treat certain bacterial infections such as pneumonia and bronchitis. The FDA is currently advising caution before prescribing Clarithromycin due the increased risk of fatal heart complications that can occur years later. In fact, consumers are at a 27% increased risk for cardiovascular death if they have taken Clarithromycin at some point in their lives. It is unclear why this medication causes such effects, but the risk of experiencing them is amplified when the drug is combined with calcium channel blockers, such as Lipitor.

9. Clozapine
Clozapine is an antipsychotic medication used to treat schizophrenia. It can also lower the risk of suicidal behavior in patients with schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder. Clozapine breaks the top ten in this list due to the negative cardiovascular effects that can occur, including myocarditis and cardiomyopathy. The risk of experiencing these effects is significantly increased when combined with other central nervous system depressants, such as alcohol. Clozapine has also been documented as causing gastrointestinal hypomotility or “slow gut,” which can result in severe constipation, bowel obstruction, and even death.

10. Cocaine
Cocaine, also known as “blow,” “coke,” and “crack,” is a strong stimulant that is used as a recreational drug. Cocaine comes in at number ten on this list due to the long-term health risks that can occur from use, including heart disease, hypertension, organ failure, respiratory distress, stroke, unhealthy weight loss, and seizures. According to the CDC, cocaine deaths have been rising in recent years and show no sign of slowing down. In the year 2017, around 14,000 cocaine-related overdose deaths occurred in the U.S. alone. Researchers found that nearly three-quarters of these deaths involving the drug were among people who had also taken opioids.

11. Colchicine
Colchicine is a medication used to treat and prevent gout attacks, as well as some other inflammatory conditions. Colchicine is considered a high-risk medicine by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) due to its ability to cause significant toxicity and death. The drug has a very narrow therapeutic index, which means that the range between therapeutic and toxic doses is small, and is some cases it can overlap. Fatal overdose has been documented as resulting from as little a dose as 0.5 mg/kg. The risk of overdose is significantly increased when colchicine is combined with strong CYP3A4 inhibitors – a mixture that usually results in death.

12. Cough Medicines
Common cough medicines include NyQuil, Robitussin, and Theraflu. These medications are used to relieve cough caused by the common cold, bronchitis, and other breathing illnesses. Cough medicines come in at number twelve on this list due to the high risk of abuse and multiple adverse effects that can occur in consumers. The main ingredient in cough medicines is dextromethorphan (DXM) which can create intoxication, hallucinations, and dissociation in large doses. Overdose can occur when too much is taken and result in severe sedation and fatal respiratory depression. Hypoxia has also been documented as occurring, which can have short- and long-term mental effects on the nervous system, including coma, permanent brain, damage and death. These medicines are often misused in combination with other drugs, such as alcohol and marijuana, which can additionally increase the risk of deadly overdose.

13. Digoxin
Digoxin, also known as Lanoxin, is a medication used to treat various heart conditions, including congestive heart failure and arterial fibrillation (AFib). Ironically, new research suggests that for people who have atrial fibrillation, taking the drug may increase the risk of dying by more than 20%. Digoxin has also been linked to nausea, vomiting, and severe gastrointestinal issues such as constipation and perianal infections. These negative side effects are more likely to occur when the medication is combined the anti-arrhythmic agent Quinidine, which can also result in overdose and death.

14. Heroin
Heroin is an illicit recreational opioid drug made from morphine; a natural substance taken from the seed pod of the various opium poppy plants. Typically injected or snorted, the drug is available as either a white or brown powder, or a black sticky substance known as black tar heroin. Heroin comes in at fourteen on this list due to the high prevalence of use and serious health complications it causes in users, including: collapsed veins for people who inject the drug, damaged tissue inside the nose for people who sniff or snort it, infection of the heart lining, lung complications, gastrointestinal abscesses, and kidney disease. According to the CDC, the number of heroin users has more than doubled over the past five years and approximately 80% of new users are coming to heroin after having abused prescription opioids. In 2016, opioid overdoses, including those related to heroin, accounted for more than 42,000 deaths in the U.S. alone.

15. Semi-Synthetic Opioids
Common semi-synthetic opioids include Percocet, Vicodin, and OxyContin. These medications are generally used to treat moderate to severe pain, although some can be prescribed for coughing and diarrhea. These drugs are highly addictive and present a high risk of misuse. Semi-synthetic opioid misuse can cause slowed breathing, which often results in hypoxia, a condition that results when too little oxygen reaches the brain. Hypoxia can induce coma, permanent brain damage, and even death. Opioids are also often combined with other drugs to increase intoxication, including cocaine and alcohol, which significantly raises the risk of fatal overdose. America is currently undergoing an opioid epidemic due to the prevalence and high overdose rate of opioid drugs, making this the final most dangerous category of drug on the countdown.

https://www.addictioncenter.com/news...ngerous-drugs/

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Does this verse apply?

Corinthians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Absolutely that verse applies.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So then WILL drinking beer altho you dont get drunk send you to Hell? Is that your conclusion?

How will you know when you are drunk? Is it the 1st drink the 5th drink the 10th drink? 1 beer? 3 beers??? I have met plenty of people that drink and say they aren’t drunk but think they are who decides where the line is for drunk? Is being “ buzzed “ being drunk?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Coffee is not an addiction, caffeine in an addictive.

ad·dic·tion
/əˈdikSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: addiction; plural noun: addictions
the fact or condition of being addicted to a particular substance, thing, or activity.

If your addicted to caffeine, its wrong. We as the church should have no chains on us!

1Cor.16

[15] I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)

Maybe this addiction would be okay?

[diakonos]

The fruit of the Spirit is self control... until they set that chocolate cake in front of you.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by diakonos

The fruit of the Spirit is self control... until they set that chocolate cake in front of you.

But what if Jesus was blessing me with that cake?




1 Kings 19:6-7 King James Version (KJV)

6 And he looked, and, behold, there was a cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head. And he did eat and drink, and laid him down again.
7 And the angel of the Lord came again the second time, and touched him, and said, Arise and eat; because the journey is too great for thee.


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