What is going on here?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

They have (to me) far more spiritual praise and worship music than old style Pentecostals.

[derAlte]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Whats wrong with loving IHOP? We are told by Jesus even to love our enemies. What is it I love about IHOP?

They teach the post trib rapture and have a good Biblical end time vision. They have (to me) far more spiritual praise and worship music than old style Pentecostals.

They teach young people to pray and seek God. To love God. To tell others about Christ. I like that.

If one group teaches truth about a certain issue and another teaches error I will stand (on that particular issue) with the one that has truth.

So there are things about IHOP I love. There are things about IHOP I hate.

I dont hate their people at all but rather love them as I do everyone else.

Sorry to be dumb here, but what is IHOP? I'm guessing you're not discussing the International House of Pancakes.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by derAlte

Sorry to be dumb here, but what is IHOP? I'm guessing you're not discussing the International House of Pancakes.

International House Of Prayer Kansas City

A Charismatic Church which I watch on live stream sometimes. I enjoy the good praise and worship there.

ihopkc.org

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I hate Apostolics? Ever heard "thou shall not bear false witness"? Why would I hate a movement I am part of and have suffered more for than many? What IS the Apostolic movement anyway?

Is it a movement that teaches the Oneness message? That baptizes in Jesus name? Preaches sinners must repent and be baptized and receive the Holy Ghost?

If thats it Im a part. But I am even more interested in going all the way with God and his word. Lets not stop where we currently are. Lets MOVE on to more Jesus!

Do I follow Charismatic groups? No I only follow Jesus Christ. I left the Charismatic movement in the 70's. Actually they forced me out because I was preaching Acts 2:38 salvation. That does not mean I feel there were not Spirit filled people among them. There may be millions of "Charismatics" with the Holy Spirit.

Doctrine wise most are still captive to doctrines of their particular denomination. The Apostolic movement has more truth generally speaking than they have. I never back down from my allegiance to Oneness Pentecostal doctrine.

When it comes to making people doubt the gifts Pentecostals are as guilty as Charismatics. Thankfully I experienced the gifts before I ever came into either one of these movements. I had no reason to doubt supernatual experiences I had with the Lord because they were real. Their validity had nothing to do with what some movement was doing.

Remember it is some among yourselves that started this thread. And why? Because some of these fleshly manifestations hurt Oneness people and truth.

I don't believe this waa a Oneness church this thread began with. More likely a charismatic or non denominational church.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

International House Of Prayer Kansas City

A Charismatic Church which I watch on live stream sometimes. I enjoy the good praise and worship there.

ihopkc.org

Mike that's following a Charismatic group. That's what I'm talking bout they are NAR, the laughing stock of Religion and all Pentecostals. That's the latter rain movement 2000 edition.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Mike that's following a Charismatic group. That's what I'm talking bout they are NAR, the laughing stock of Religion and all Pentecostals. That's the latter rain movement 2000 edition.

Ok if enjoying their praise and worship and the post trib doctrine and the teaching of day and night prayer means I am following a Charismatic Church.....to you....fine

And if I support and teach Oneness doctrine and baptism in Jesus name and full salvation by Acts 2:38 am I following an Apostolic Church?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Ok if enjoying their praise and worship and the post trib doctrine and the teaching of day and night prayer means I am following a Charismatic Church.....to you....fine

You approve of NAR!?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by houston

You approve of NAR!?

Is IHOP called NAR?

Do YOU approve of "Apostolic" Churches that teach Christmas and Easter? How about that Jesus came and resurrected the dead saints and raptured the living to Heaven in 70ad?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Is IHOP called NAR?

That's what their part of the new Apostolic Reformation the third wave. That is the modern latter rain movement, do you know what that is? Started by C Peter Wagner they acknowledge William Branham as a prophet and even back some of his teachings. Just google search NAR New Apostolic Reformation and look at the names of the people involved. If you can still back anything they are teaching you need prayer at the very least.

[houston]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

That's what their part of the new Apostolic Reformation the third wave. That is the modern latter rain movement, do you know what that is? Started by C Peter Wagner they acknowledge William Branham as a prophet and even back some of his teachings. Just google search NAR New Apostolic Reformation and look at the names of the people involved. If you can still back anything they are teaching you need prayer at the very least.

It all ties in with Toronto... Pensacola... BETHEL in Redding. I’m lately doubting Azusa.

It’s the fruit of the tongue talkin trojan horse..,