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05-20-2018, 12:19 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Is that your belief or his?
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that is what he teaches.
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05-20-2018, 04:33 PM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Is that your belief or his?
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Brother Irvin Baxter believes that the U.S. is the eagle which carries Israel.
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05-21-2018, 07:19 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Brother Irvin Baxter believes that the U.S. is the eagle which carries Israel.
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I wonder how many variations of dispensationalism there are among OPs and if there is one dominant version for OPs
If OPs believe that there can be no salvation outside of Acts 2:38, which I hope is the case, there is no need for a 7 year tribulation for Jews.
At least Bro Baxter does not have a 7 year Jewish only trib.
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05-21-2018, 07:50 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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I wonder how many variations of dispensationalism there are among OPs and if there is one dominant version for OPs
If OPs believe that there can be no salvation outside of Acts 2:38, which I hope is the case, there is no need for a 7 year tribulation for Jews.
At least Bro Baxter does not have a 7 year Jewish only trib.
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Perhaps, the 7 year trib for the jews is the period wherein they'll obey Acts 2:38.
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05-21-2018, 09:42 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Perhaps, the 7 year trib for the jews is the period wherein they'll obey Acts 2:38. 
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Why can't they obey it now?
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05-21-2018, 10:03 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Why can't they obey it now?
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Who said they're not?
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05-21-2018, 10:12 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Who said they're not?
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Are they? Then why would they need a seven year period?
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05-21-2018, 10:13 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Who said they're not?
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It actually looks like you are saying they're not.
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Perhaps, the 7 year trib for the jews is the period wherein they'll obey Acts 2:38. 
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Then why are you making the above statement? If they can obey Acts 2:38 now, then what is the relevance to the trib and Jews? Also explain what is a Jew, and why are the still special to God outside the blood of Christ? Are converts to Judaism also in the same equation? How does one convert to Judaism? Does God honor two religions? Christianity and Rabbinical Judaism?
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05-22-2018, 02:08 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Originally Posted by Amanah
I wonder how many variations of dispensationalism there are among OPs and if there is one dominant version for OPs
If OPs believe that there can be no salvation outside of Acts 2:38, which I hope is the case, there is no need for a 7 year tribulation for Jews.
At least Bro Baxter does not have a 7 year Jewish only trib.
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Some leaders at ABI used to teach, and maybe still do (???) that the tribulation period is actually 14 years. Some UPCI higher-ups were allegedly called in a year or so after my wife finished up her Associate's. Goes back to an S.G. Norris doctrine, ABI's founder. It was quite controversial when my wife was there.
She wrote a paper refuting it, but the professor told her she had to rewrite it to make it look like she agreed with it "to show she could prove, in writing, that she understood" what has been taught to her.
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05-22-2018, 06:17 AM
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Re: Opening of US Embassy in Jerusalem -Ceremony
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Some leaders at ABI used to teach, and maybe still do (???) that the tribulation period is actually 14 years. Some UPCI higher-ups were allegedly called in a year or so after my wife finished up her Associate's. Goes back to an S.G. Norris doctrine, ABI's founder. It was quite controversial when my wife was there.
She wrote a paper refuting it, but the professor told her she had to rewrite it to make it look like she agreed with it "to show she could prove, in writing, that she understood" what has been taught to her.
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Baxter believes in a 3.5 year tribulation he says it this way, "time and times and the dividing of time. Daniel 7:25
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