James Strong, KJV, Redefinitions of words? - Page 11

Sean · #**101** 01-04-2018, 08:48 AM

Water.......

H4161 מוֹצָא mowtsa' go out, go forth, spring, brought, watersprings, bud, east, outgoings, proceeded, proceedeth, vein, come out, watercourse

https://www.blueletterbible.org/sear...1#s=s_lexiconc

It seems the guy can't make up his mind.....LOL

Tithesmeister · #**102** 01-04-2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

As a young convert I had never heard of Strong’s. Raised in small Kentucky area. Then folks came through holding meetings who were associated with Bernice Hicks and her Crucified way. They were the first folks I heard using the Strongs. I was fascinated with it. Although their interpretations were very strange. Finally I went to the library to look at one. What I found startling was the word then a complete list of definitions. So these “Greek” Kentucky scholars just went down the list and picked out a definition that appealed to them. So early on I became skeptical of Greek scholars who could not read or speak the language. My two cents.

I don't know if I just have a complex? or if there is something more to it. I have sometimes felt that the "Greek" version, or the "Hebrew" version was quoted either to let me know how smart the speaker was, or just how ignorant I am.

This is not always the case though. Sometimes I felt like they just didn't like the translation. I have had the impression before that, "This guy can hardly speak recognizable English, and he wants me to believe he's a Greek scholar?! Really?

Why I bet he doesn't even know what motza ball soup is!

He probably couldn't order a kosher BLT if he was starving to death!

Pressing-On · #**103** 01-04-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul

Sean has a point here. Lots of preachers and teachers think they are Greek and/or Hebrew experts because they have and use a Strong's.

I've heard plenty of sermons preached more from Strong's than from the Bible.

A lot of misuse of Strong's occurs, too. Some editions also have typos or errors in the numbering system and lead to wrong entries.

For example:

Anyone who owns the edition aboves can go and look and see that the entry for "Isaac" is given the number 2664. But, when you go to 2664 in the Greek Dictionary in the back of the concordance, you find:

Well, anyone who has a brain and has read Genesis knows that the name Isaac means "laughter".

But the preacher I listened to who claimed God gave him insight about the name Isaac meaning to settle down and colonize as part of his sermon text in Galatians 4 had no idea his Strong's was wrong, ended up doing nothing more than bear false witness against God while thinking he was speaking divine revelation, all because he had a Strong's.

I have contacted James Strong over a word that didn't seem correct a few years ago, although I can't remember what that was today. I looked through my Strong's, but didn't find where I might have made a reference to it. Anyway, he was quick to acknowledge the mistake saying that I had found a "bonda fide mistake".

Esaias · #**104** 01-04-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I have contacted James Strong over a word that didn't seem correct a few years ago, although I can't remember what that was today. I looked through my Strong's, but didn't find where I might have made a reference to it. Anyway, he was quick to acknowledge the mistake saying that I had found a "bonda fide mistake".

The guy died in 1894, so I need to know what calling plan you have cause it sounds better than what I'm getting from Verizon!

Pressing-On · #**105** 01-04-2018, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

The guy died in 1894, so I need to know what calling plan you have cause it sounds better than what I'm getting from Verizon!

Sorry, I meant that I contacted James Swanson.

Esaias · #**106** 01-04-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Sorry, I meant that I contacted James Swanson.

Oh man, I was getting ready to switch my plan! What a let down!

lol

Pressing-On · #**107** 01-04-2018, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Oh man, I was getting ready to switch my plan! What a let down!

lol

Right. It would have been out of this world.

I can't recall the word we were discussing on this forum, but the definition came up having to do with a stairway, which had nothing to do with the actual word. Wish I could remember it. I know it had something to do with a standards discussion. lol

Esaias · #**108** 01-04-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Right. It would have been out of this world.

I can't recall the word we were discussing on this forum, but the definition came up having to do with a stairway, which had nothing to do with the actual word. Wish I could remember it. I know it had something to do with a standards discussion. lol

Psalm 151:5, "... upon the hairway to heaven, yea it hath ever been of old..."?

Pressing-On · #**109** 01-04-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Psalm 151:5, "... upon the hairway to heaven, yea it hath ever been of old..."?

Sean · #**110** 01-04-2018, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I have contacted James Strong over a word that didn't seem correct a few years ago, although I can't remember what that was today. I looked through my Strong's, but didn't find where I might have made a reference to it. Anyway, he was quick to acknowledge the mistake saying that I had found a "bonda fide mistake".

Do you realize you just destroyed DB's faith?

Oh well, we must destroy it to rebuild it in the KJV anyway.