My Opinion

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I'm sorry. What on earth are you talking about???

Here I have to agree with you.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

Very true statements up untill the end, I had to get out of your pinto. Some may hitch a ride but the church will soon be out of here.

Yeah Lolo I say!

Interesting turn Mowii Wowii.

So, you believe Christianity in the United States is exactly how you preach it?

Really?

No rapture yet?

You're still here?

So, again, Christianity in the United States (not even talking abroad) is how you believe it should be? It isn't getting worse?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Here I have to agree with you.

all this indicates is that you are not aware that you are trapped in a death-centric expression; not that it is not the pastor doing anything wrong per se, but the witness of him with a 12 pack. We understand that if this witness were a new believer, the pastor could be said to be offending them, because they do not yet understand, but you would also be "offended" too right. Are you a new believer? (and strictly as an aside, this is uniquely American, a European pastor could walk out of a store with a 12 pack unhindered, it is strictly a social understanding unique to us, "beer = depravity," that admits that an American pastor should not do this. And you can verify this with a European pastor)

And you also agree because you cannot engage with me @ Vam...at the lady with the fangs, you aren't aware of the question i asked, prolly you cannot even find the question now, there is no question, it has just disappeared

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

Very true statements up untill the end, I had to get out of your pinto. Some may hitch a ride but the church will soon be out of here.

Yeah Lolo I say!

ok, well you are invited to attack "nice" with me, and we'll see how far you get!
you are going to get basted, because nice is not the problem, nice is the solution. To the problem that the church has created.

it might be difficult to see, but all that is happening from an outgrowth of "omg, the pastor is coming out of the store with beer." Which, granted, the pastor encouraged. So now you are invited to treat the lady with the fangs differently, right? It's ok to show your disapproval of...well, her, the pastor, etc., because why? Because you love them, huh.

Don't kid yourself, bro, we are drone-bombing innocents right now because we love them. The church has led the way; the same church that claims "Body of Christ" from one side of their mouth, and "Christ physically returning" from the other.

[shazeep]

if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

it is those who claim Christ that determine the state of a nation, not the other way around.

[shazeep]

"They have to die"
https://jonathanturley.org/2014/07/1...onal-backlash/

"How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them? I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they."

and the church says "yes."