Why lie about Hitler?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Why did you red the ARE NOT part? These European Jews arent semetic jews at all.

I think he was highlighting the fact they were not Jews, but zionists..I may be wrong though

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Is the Holocaust a zionist deception or did it really happen? Was it only zionists Hitler hated or all Jews>?

I have read reports that there were 150,000 Jews or half Jews in the Nazi armed forces. This included Generals.

One supposedly was an old friend of Hitler whom he legally declared to be "an honorary Aryan".

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Blame the jews for being persecuted everywhere they go? Maybe it's genetic...some people believe blacks are genetically inferior too...but that's called racism.

I don't buy it...nope.

Maybe that's why the Indians were slaughtered by the white man (Christian?), they were genetically predisposed to infuriate the white man.

Maybe Armenians were just genetically inferior and predisposed to infuriate the Turks...

What is it about these people that led others to justly slaughter them? I wonder

It seems we are heading down that same path repeated so many times of conspiracy talk about the evil jews..the cause of all our problems.

Maybe Christians were genetic retards that caused the Romans to blame them for all their problems too and throw them to the lions, blame them for the fire.

Minorities are often the scapegoats

So you really don't know either. We both are supposing.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I have read reports that there were 150,000 Jews or half Jews in the Nazi armed forces. This included Generals.

One supposedly was an old friend of Hitler whom he legally declared to be "an honorary Aryan".

All is not as it appears...when you research. Those Jews were in Finland's army. They shared a common enemy, Russia. that does not mean Germany did not slaughter it's own Jews.

African's worked with American's to get them black slaves...Slavery still happened

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...mon-enemy.html

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

All is not as it appears...when you research. Those Jews were in Finland's army. They shared a common enemy, Russia. that does not mean Germany did not slaughter it's own Jews.

African's worked with American's to get them black slaves...Slavery still happened

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...mon-enemy.html

No these were in the GERMAN army, many of them SS.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's not entirely true, because Jesus was not of a priestly line, nor were the king's servants, who needed to produce lineage. As far as Levites were concerned they didn't only have to prove just their parentage, but their wives have to prove their qualifications to marry a priest. Also, they couldn't just be sons of Aaron, but had to be sons of Zadok. Circumcision wasn't something which only Israelites and Judeans practiced but also practiced by the Egyptians, while the majority of the Hellenistic culture viewed circumcision as mutilation. So, circumcision wouldn't be proof of one's connection with a tribe. Which all during the time of Jesus Christ knew their lineage and that lineage was written down, and cataloged. While modern man may view ancient men as backward hillbillies, they weren't. They were advance in the way they kept their historical records. Ezra 59-60, not only catalogs the priests, but temple servants and those who waited on the king. Failure to produce a genealogy prevented them from citizenship.

The whole understanding of a book of life, were scrolls kept by chroniclers of the ancient world. Citizens, or members of tribes or governments were entered at birth. Other scrolls documented deaths, criminal executions, notable events which certain citizens did outstanding, and also events in which certain people foiled the plot of assassinations of government officials as in the case of Mordecai in the book of Esther. Even the Bible itself is a chronicle of events, genealogies, and who begat who. Yet, no one living today can trace lineage to anyone in the first century B.C. let alone the first century A.D..

I haven't read Ezra in awhile, but I don't recall not being able to prove a genealogy having to do with disqualifying someone from citizenship in Israel? Rather, it disqualified them from service as priest, and etc.?

As far as Jesus, His genealogy was because of the royal line.

Otherwise I am not familiar with the archaeological evidence for Jewish genealogies in antiquity.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You're missing the point

No, you are.

[Esaias]

http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish.../dp/0700613587

"Working in newly opened archives and reexamining old evidence, historian Bryan Mark Rigg turns up a surprising wrinkle in the history of Nazi Germany: the presence of part-Jewish soldiers not only in the ranks but also in the upper echelons of the German military. One such soldier recalled, "I served because I wanted to prove Hitler's racial nonsense wrong. I wanted to prove that people of Jewish descent were indeed brave and courageous soldiers." By Rigg's estimate, as many as 150,000 soldiers, sailors, and airmen of partial Jewish descent (Mischlinge, in Nazi terminology) served in Adolf Hitler's forces--some, such as field marshal and war criminal Erhard Milch, placed in high positions by Hitler himself even as he tightened the noose on the Jews of Europe. Rigg considers the role of these men as they negotiated the confusion of the monolithic, racist state in dealing with Germans of partial Jewish descent. "[Their] experience clearly demonstrates the complexity of life in the Third Reich," writes Rigg. His book sheds light on a difficult subject in the face of certain controversy, and it merits discussion."

[Esaias]

http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspo...s-all-too.html

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

I haven't read Ezra in awhile, but I don't recall not being able to prove a genealogy having to do with disqualifying someone from citizenship in Israel? Rather, it disqualified them from service as priest, and etc.?

I suggest you read it, because it wasn't only the priest, but workers of the temple, king's servants, etc.

Originally Posted by votivesoul

As far as Jesus, His genealogy was because of the royal line.

You are very intelligent, I have no doubt that you can see that genealogies are complex, and we don't only have two sets of grandparents, but the further back you go in the line the grandparentage grows. Logically for Jesus to have a genealogy, obviously everyone in His up line would have a genealogy as well. Everyone had a genealogy in the tribal system of Israel, and it was used so they could know who married who, who had converts in their line, who had time markers in their line as Jesus did with Jechonias the captive. Genealogy wasn't just important to track down who married who, or who was born to who, but the history of the family, most importantly the first born male, his offspring. Genealogy also kept record of first born right of inheritance. Kept track of the first born of concubines, their first born children, and the rest of the concubine's offspring, as well as the lineage of her children. Also keep in mind, that all 12 patriarchs had descendants, who had genealogies, these genealogies traced the descendants back to their ancestors the patriarchs So, it is easy to see how genealogy shows eligibility of a family to take part in the commonwealth of Israel. The Bible, scrolls, Dead Sea Scrolls Bible list of genealogies

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Otherwise I am not familiar with the archaeological evidence for Jewish genealogies in antiquity.

Jewish Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Judaica, have good resources on the explanation on genealogy from antiquity and Talmudic.