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Old 05-15-2014, 08:42 PM
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Re: Salutations in the new Testament

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The scriptures don't allow you to use the term "person" for the three entities that are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?
Exactly, because it would be adding to the word. It's a serious thing to add a concept that the word disallows for.

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You have shown me a scripture that refers the the person of God. That very scripture draws some kind of contrast between that person and Jesus (the human known as Jesus and as the Son of God).
And it does not distinguish Jesus from God as two persons, though, in the way that tri-personal trinitarianism proposes.

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The Bible portrays the Father and the Son as two persons, do they not?
Not they do not. Like I said, God is involved here. You are repeatedly comparing God to human beings who have to be three persons to remotely do what God did when you describe what God did as demanding three persons.

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And yes, the Catholics were wrong to kill those people for whatever heresies they held to, denying the Trinity being one of them (apparently -- not sure I've heard that before). Not sure how that is relevant, though.
It is relevant in the sense that the means of the pressure used to demand that people adhere to trinity made it quite appealing to do so way back then, making it another reason why it is prevalent.
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Re: Salutations in the new Testament

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Exactly, because it would be adding to the word. It's a serious thing to add a concept that the word disallows for.



And it does not distinguish Jesus from God as two persons, though, in the way that tri-personal trinitarianism proposes.



Not they do not. Like I said, God is involved here. You are repeatedly comparing God to human beings who have to be three persons to remotely do what God did when you describe what God did as demanding three persons.



It is relevant in the sense that the means of the pressure used to demand that people adhere to trinity made it quite appealing to do so way back then, making it another reason why it is prevalent.
Ah, I see.
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