QUESTION: Did This UPC pastor Steal Money from the church?? you decide

I was in a very large UPC refreshing church for a very well known refreshing conference and the refreshing pastor got up and said, "This conference is running with a $2,500 deficit, we need to take an offering, we need $4,500 in order to cover this thing with black ink instead of red."

The emotional snowballing of people raising their hands to give $100 was, well, refreshing.

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I was in a very large UPC refreshing church for a very well known refreshing conference and the refreshing pastor got up and said, "This conference is running with a $2,500 deficit, we need to take an offering, we need $4,500 in order to cover this thing with black ink instead of red."

The emotional snowballing of people raising their hands to give $100 was, well, refreshing.

At this time....let us guess what refreshing conference you attended.....

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

For all the bad church leaders there are, there is just as many like Daniel Alicea's Father and my Father-in-law who labor for years putting nearly every extra into the church.

Let's try to not dwell on only the negatives here.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I was in a very large UPC refreshing church for a very well known refreshing conference and the refreshing pastor got up and said, "This conference is running with a $2,500 deficit, we need to take an offering, we need $4,500 in order to cover this thing with black ink instead of red."

The emotional snowballing of people raising their hands to give $100 was, well, refreshing.

And the xtra $2,000 was for?????

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

And the xtra $2,000 was for?????

Embroidered Towels.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I was in a very large UPC refreshing church for a very well known refreshing conference and the refreshing pastor got up and said, "This conference is running with a $2,500 deficit, we need to take an offering, we need $4,500 in order to cover this thing with black ink instead of red."

The emotional snowballing of people raising their hands to give $100 was, well, refreshing.

we minister for profit??

how refresing for the times


NOT

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Embroidered Towels.

Ahh... stealing from the hotel.... towels, shampoo, Jack Daniels...

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Theresa

we minister for profit??

Well, Yes and No!

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Embroidered Towels.

:sshhh

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Thad

but let's be fair.
we always talk about the charismatics stealing from the church do we not?
we have to be honest when it's our own too shouldn't we ????

No, we talk about ANYONE doing this...and UPC churches gone bad HAVE been topics here and at NFCF before