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03-13-2013, 06:56 PM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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The TV thing has always perplexed me. It seems to me the UC view simply breeds immature christians who cannot think for themselves and either blindly follow or eventually reject sound doctrine when they wake up and recognize some preachers conviction being preached as doctrine.
Niether of those is a good thing. It just leads to either lost or shallow folk.
Why not teach Christian maturity and desernment and prayer life, and following the leading of the spirit? you dont have to name anything. but if you have a church well taught in those things, they will be forced by their own walk with God and His leading, to turn off bad programing, or get rid of TV on their own.
but this idea of a ban on the thing, just teaches people nothing and when they run into something else (internet) they have no self control because they are immature.
This kind of silliness is the root problem in all of Oneness Pentecost and it causes vastly too many good people to abandon sound doctrine. AFF is full of good folk who walked away from sound doctrine over nonsensical personal convictions being tought as doctrine.
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Kinda reminds me of the Apostolic/UPCI version of gun control.
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03-14-2013, 08:03 AM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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but this idea of a ban on the thing, just teaches people nothing and when they run into something else (internet) they have no self control because they are immature.
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Hey, I came from a church like that. And I'm not immature. You're just a big fat doodie head.
(jk)
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03-14-2013, 11:33 AM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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Some of you may have failed to realize that the UPC has become dominated by the strong feminine influence...nothing can be more pagan than that.
With the exception of those receiving salary, tithes, and financial benefit, men are getting tired of it.   
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Same ole "blame the women" game. Some things NEVER change.
Why don't you talk about the wimpy males, in the UPC and out?
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03-14-2013, 11:41 AM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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The UPCI (or any other organization) isn't the Kingdom of God and should never be seen as anything more than a human organization designed to make money and control members.
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Ignorant post of the day award!
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03-14-2013, 11:43 AM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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Same ole "blame the women" game. Some things NEVER change.
Why don't you talk about the wimpy males, in the UPC and out?
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03-14-2013, 11:48 AM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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Ignorant post of the day award!
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Is the UPCI the Kingdom of God? Nope.
Must it raise revenues to stay in business? Yep.
Does it control members? Yes.
Now... consider something. By "control" we don't have to assume it is negative. Members are controlled in that they must affirm what an organization assumes to be true doctrine and practice.
In fact... the subject of this thread is about an area of control that the UPCI is loosening.
Hope you get my meaning.
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03-14-2013, 11:48 AM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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Same ole "blame the women" game. Some things NEVER change.
Why don't you talk about the wimpy males, in the UPC and out?
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I do agree that we need less of these:
And more of these.
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03-14-2013, 12:18 PM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
I think we have all heard for years something like "Our ladies are the prettiest ladies anywhere." It's true in some cases. There are some ladies in the UPC or similar orgs that care about their apperance. They workout, they eat well, they bathe, they do other things. I am not suggesting that other don't bathe but perhaps they need an updated fragrance.
Skirts, long hair, etc. those things may never change because they "have bible for that," but tv they really don't. If the UPC evolves back to a fellowship where there are 1-steppers & 3-steppers alike then there will be room for those that believe skirts & hair are essential and those that don't merging together. Ya know what I would like to see? I'd love to see sermons at UPC events, conferences be nothing about "rallying the troops" and be all about helping people, practical/biblical living. There is a Fellowship & conference in the Southeastern US called IAF, International Apostolic Fellowship. They are a group of many from varying Apostolic backgrounds that come together and worship God, preach, sing and all that. Not much is preached about the core doctrine all the time aside from the Holy Ghost and baptism in Jesus name. I know for a fact there are 1-steppers there.
Show me a fellowship not a organizational structure.
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03-14-2013, 12:21 PM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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I think we have all heard for years something like "Our ladies are the prettiest ladies anywhere." It's true in some cases. There are some ladies in the UPC or similar orgs that care about their apperance. They workout, they eat well, they bathe, they do other things. I am not suggesting that other don't bathe but perhaps they need an updated fragrance. 
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You may agree with this having lived here, but in my opinion the most beautiful women on average in any specific religion have to be the Mormons. We have so many Mormon families in our neighborhood with larger (4-6 kids) families and most of the wives look like they were never pregnant once in their lives.
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03-14-2013, 01:38 PM
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Re: UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual
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You may agree with this having lived here, but in my opinion the most beautiful women on average in any specific religion have to be the Mormons. We have so many Mormon families in our neighborhood with larger (4-6 kids) families and most of the wives look like they were never pregnant once in their lives.
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Interesting. Any guesses as to why this might be? I've noticed the same thing.
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