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Old 05-11-2007, 01:41 PM
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You have to admire people who are finally standing where they have been leaning for years. This Austin shennanigan is the first real, open, display of the leanings of those who hate structure and rules, joining the ranks of others of like preacious faith.

These others who are leaning, IMO, are eventually going to embrace those same elements when their foundation shifts.

"Abstain from the very appearance of Evil" has always worked for me.

First real open display ??? How sad ... revisionism at it's best.
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Old 05-11-2007, 01:41 PM
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I was hoping these guys would start some kind of something that ex-upci/currrent non-standard upci people would be able to gravitate to without going trinitarinan.
They are just proving the old adage, Ferdinand.
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Old 05-11-2007, 01:42 PM
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I would disagree that I labeled her as a false prophet. The only thing I attributed as "false" was the doctrine, which even you have stated is not scriptural.

I understand God can and will use whomever He chooses. And I would somewhat agree with the premise that gifts don't reflect the person, but God. However, how far does one go with that? Could Marilyn Manson call himself a prophet and say he's used in the gifts - and not be collectively criticized and laughed at? How far are we willing to go to say a person is being used of God? Especially one who has enjoined themself to a false doctrine?
Really ...

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Old 05-11-2007, 01:43 PM
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You made this statement in addition to questioning KP ....
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No, she's not a prophet nor can she be used in the prophetic gifts because she's a trinitarian. She doesn't believe in the same God.

Sounds mean, but it's true. Trinitarianism is a false doctrine and this so-called prophet has no place behind the pulpit of an alleged oneness church.
DA - Look at the thread again. This was ~not~ in response to KP's post. KP's post came after this.
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They are just proving the old adage, Ferdinand.
Soooo true there Coon........
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DA - Look at the thread again. This was ~not~ in response to KP's post. KP's post came after this.
You're missing the point .. you made this statement .... in response to me asking if he should have a Spirit-filled person teach on prophecy .....

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She can't teach on prophecy because she has a different Holy Ghost ... Chaotic????
She can't teach on prophecy because she DOESN"T HAVE the Holy Ghost!!
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While I have not been a member of WOP since the late 80's, it was always KP vision and desire to have Trinitarians at his church with the belief that he could as well as the church could influence them. It remains to be seen if that has worked.

He hasn't changed his fundamental doctrine, the verdict is still out if he has made much of a impact on the
Phil Driscoll's
Crouche's
Jesse Dixon
and a host of other celebrity types that WOP has hosted over the years.
What the jury is not still out on is the fact that all his meandering around with trinnies has affected and influenced his son randy, who no longer believes like his father does.
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She can't teach on prophecy because she DOESN"T HAVE the Holy Ghost!!
I'd step aside for the impending bolt of lightning
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What the jury is not still out on is the fact that all his meandering around with trinnies has affected and influenced his son randy, who no longer believes like his father does.
I would agree. But I think that had more to do with his music angle, you know to broaden the audience to fill the wallet, opps, shouldn't have said that.
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