Turning from God in total and not repenting from sin is unforgivable even while doing some good. Ephesus shows this possible denial and the possible state of being. To ask not you have not!
"To the angel of the church in Ephesus,1 write the following:2
"This is the solemn pronouncement of3 the one who has a firm grasp on4 the seven stars in his right hand5 — the one who walks among the seven golden6 lampstands: Rev 2:2 'I know your works as well as your7 labor and steadfast endurance, and that you cannot tolerate8 evil. You have even put to the test9 those who refer to themselves as apostles (but are not), and have discovered that they are false. Rev 2:3 I am also aware10 that you have persisted steadfastly,11 endured much for the sake of my name, and have not grown weary. Rev 2:4 But I have this against you: You have departed12 from your first love! Rev 2:5 Therefore, remember from what high state13 you have fallen and repent! Do14 the deeds you did at the first;15 if not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place — that is, if you do not repent.16 Rev 2:6 But you do have this going for you:17 You hate what the Nicolaitans18 practice19 — practices I also hate.
OK, but any sin is "unforgivable" if not repented of, right? But isn't the sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit different? Namely, unforgivable even if repented of? Jesus said blaspheming the Son can be forgiven, but blaspheming the HS will not.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
OK, but any sin is "unforgivable" if not repented of, right? But isn't the sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit different? Namely, unforgivable even if repented of? Jesus said blaspheming the Son can be forgiven, but blaspheming the HS will not.
I think this relates to...
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
It is the statement that there is no more covering of grace the second a saint sins that is disturbing. That in the second you commit a sin of any kind God yanks off the covering until you repent; that is lack of understanding of grace.
covering of grace? Grace is God's power. You lose his cleansing of sin unless you repent of them which is to turn and walk. How can you be forgiven without repentance? GOd cannot cover unrepentant sin. God cannot cover a heart that is at enmity with him and is a enemy of his Spirit. God's grace is his power to overcome should you turn to his call. It is practical not simple forensic righteousness. You have forensic righteousness without practical righeous standing (faith). This is a well known concept that I constantly point to. If you repent you live. To Live is to turn and do LIFE OF THE SPIRIT!
Eze 18:19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Eze 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Eze 18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? Eze 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
covering of grace? Grace is God's power. You lose his cleansing of sin unless you repent of them which is to turn and walk. How can you be forgiven without repentance? GOd cannot cover unrepentant sin. God cannot cover a heart that is at enmity with him and is a enemy of his Spirit. God's grace is his power to overcome should you turn to his call. It is practical not simple forensic righteousness. You have forensic righteousness without practical righeous standing (faith).
Grace is NOT God's power, it is His bestowing of undeserved mercy!!!
Then your theology is you are totally out of covenant every time you commit a sin, (regardless of degree) and remain that way until full repentance?
Grace is NOT God's power, it is His bestowing of undeserved mercy!!!
Then your theology is you are totally out of covenant every time you commit a sin, (regardless of degree) and remain that way until full repentance?
You have the ability to be at peace with his requirement to be considered his "friend." Should you violate the contract. It is called repentance!
You can be in covenant with someone and also in violation of its term and not considered faithful to it. In this you are not righteous before God. God can compel you to come back in peace to it. Which is his mercy but that does not mean you are still righteous in his eyes. If you sin.... the law convicts you of the sin at that point.
Jas 2:9 But if you show prejudice, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as violators.
If you do not come to peace/repent he can remove his life in it. Which is a state of depravity of his Spirit/light to draw you to repentance. Rev 2 Ephesus church. Which is sometimes some would consider turned over to reprobate mind and God considers you dead/no more and without light.
Grace is how power and it relates clearly to the Spirit.
You have the ability to be at peace with his requirement to be considered his "friend." Should you violate the contract. It is called repentance!
You can be in covenant with someone and also in violation of its term and not considered faithful to it. In this you are not righteous before God. God can compel you to come back in peace to it. Which is his mercy but that does not mean you are still righteous in his eyes. If you sin.... the law convicts you of the sin at that point.
Jas 2:9 But if you show prejudice, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as violators.
If you do not come to peace/repent he can remove his life in it. Which is a state of depravity of his Spirit/light to draw you to repentance. Rev 2 Ephesus church. Which is sometimes some would consider turned over to reprobate mind and God considers you dead/no more and without light.
Grace is how power and it relates clearly to the Spirit.
Violation/breach of a contract does not automatically void the contract.
The terms of the contract state the remedies of the offended party, what they may do, not what they have to.
A man can choose to stay in covenant with a wife who has broken her vows.
The point is it divorce is not automatic.
If she should die before repentance, and the husband had chosen to give her more time, she would die married and in covenant regardless.
Violation/breach of a contract does not automatically void the contract.
The terms of the contract state the remedies of the offended party, what they may do, not what they have to.
A man can choose to stay in covenant with a wife who has broken her vows.
The point is it divorce is not automatic.
If she should die before repentance, and the husband had chosen to give her more time, she would die married and in covenant regardless.
Again that doesn't mean she is right before him. He can compel her but the breach has occured. Her standing is unrighteous. She can turn as he is faithful to forgive by his nature if true repentance is seen. Having a total divorce of no covenant and standing in breach are two different aspects but they share onw reality to the party in view. Emnity and faithlessness which cannot be forgiven unless repentance is seen. Yes He can continue but not WITHOUT unity of heart and agreement which is repentance. That is what Jesus does in Ephesus in Rev 2. Total casting off is unrepentance realized. While compelling to live again/peace by repentance is mercy extended. You are already convicted as a transgressor. To live after the flesh is death. God's part to the covenant still remains a reality by mercy of which your sin stands before you condemning you and he shows love. Neither the official divorced or breech of contract person is saved. The main thing is removing himself in total or not. While in sin you have no righteous standing as you are not walking in faith. You cannot be righeous without living faith which is repentance. These are levels of relationship to a covenant. You cannot be pure/hot obeying/walking in faith while committing sin. The lukewarm are not saved.
You have the ability to be at peace with his requirement to be considered his "friend." Should you violate the contract. It is called repentance!
You can be in covenant with someone and also in violation of its term and not considered faithful to it. In this you are not righteous before God. God can compel you to come back in peace to it. Which is his mercy but that does not mean you are still righteous in his eyes. If you sin.... the law convicts you of the sin at that point.
Jas 2:9 But if you show prejudice, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as violators.
If you do not come to peace/repent he can remove his life in it. Which is a state of depravity of his Spirit/light to draw you to repentance. Rev 2 Ephesus church. Which is sometimes some would consider turned over to reprobate mind and God considers you dead/no more and without light.
Grace is how power and it relates clearly to the Spirit.
8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,”[a] you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,”[b] also said, “Do not murder.”[c]Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
So, you prefer to be under the law??? You must understand the scripture not just be able to post it.
I choose mercy and "the law of liberty", that TRIUMPHS over judgment, "...for judgment without mercy is to the one who has shown NO mercy..." This is why we must be very careful about judging, that is God's preview!
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