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Old 05-01-2007, 12:59 PM
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"Because they laid hands on them and heard them speak in tongues", this action recorded in several places elludes to an action and reaction. It took both parties' faith but not nessasarily demanded it. to conclude that it is an action compareable with the Pope is insinuating (maybe not) that it is a powerless gesture of absolution and empowerment.

Not true. Just simple faith moving in the church the way God designed to be.

Was Peter's presence a catalyst???
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Was Peter's presence a catalyst???
Here comes the pope! Everyone's gettin' the Holy Ghost!
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:18 PM
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Here comes the pope! Everyone's gettin' the Holy Ghost!
You may mock but it doesn't change the written record. They sent for Peter & John and Peter had the keys. Jesus said Peter had the Keys. All you guys mocking cannot change that fact.
I was asked a question once about Psalms 2 "Why did the heathen rage?"
My answer because they were heathen. Very simple.
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"Because they laid hands on them and heard them speak in tongues", this action recorded in several places elludes to an action and reaction. It took both parties' faith but not nessasarily demanded it. to conclude that it is an action compareable with the Pope is insinuating (maybe not) that it is a powerless gesture of absolution and empowerment.

Not true. Just simple faith moving in the church the way God designed to be.
so I go back to a recent question. Is it logical to assume then that Peter and John laid hands on all in this substantial revival?
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:21 PM
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You may mock but it doesn't change the written record. They sent for Peter & John and Peter had the keys. Jesus said Peter had the Keys. All you guys mocking cannot change that fact.
I was asked a question once about Psalms 2 "Why did the heathen rage?"
My answer because they were heathen. Very simple.
Settle down there brather. My questioning is not mocking I can assure you. I'm reading a book and have some honest questions.

So far the mocking has been from you corner with the answers you've given.

Again no where in this particular passage does it come close to saying that Peter acted alone.
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so I go back to a recent question. Is it logical to assume then that Peter and John laid hands on all in this substantial revival?
Logical to assume, yes, but not necessarily so, because as they began to lay hands on the group, God could very well have kept what was necessity and changed what was not necessity so that it could have started falling any way he chose, (like on the day of Pentecost)
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Settle down there brather. My questioning is not mocking I can assure you. I'm reading a book and have some honest questions.

So far the mocking has been from you corner with the answers you've given.

Again no where in this particular passage does it come close to saying that Peter acted alone.
John went with Peter no one is dsicrediting the Apostle John however John was not given the keys. Paul traveled with Barnabas then Silas they went by twos.
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John went with Peter no one is dsicrediting the Apostle John however John was not given the keys. Paul traveled with Barnabas then Silas they went by twos.
You are still seemingly avoiding the fact that the word of God says that they both acted together, simultaneously. I am not saying you are discrediting the Apostle John but neother are you saying that they were equal which is WAY apparent in this passage.

Can you point to the other scriptures where Peter performed pope-like activity?
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Logical to assume, yes, but not necessarily so, because as they began to lay hands on the group, God could very well have kept what was necessity and changed what was not necessity so that it could have started falling any way he chose, (like on the day of Pentecost)
On the day of Pentecost there was no laying on of hands just a group of receptive hearts.
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