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Old 04-16-2010, 06:27 AM
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Well next time you all are here I will come see you. The past times things haven't worked out but I got to meet you all! I don't attend CLC anymore. I will talk to my UPC pastor and maybe you'll get an invite. Ummmm maybe not we will see.
Whew, so you are back in THE ARK. Thank heavens you are saved now!!!!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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For you then it is not a legend it is real. I wasn't speaking to your knowledge of it as much as I was speaking to what I have heard over the years about other things he has said. If the whole porn rental thing is true then when Youth Congress is in a city I sure is skyrockets too. Kids and addicts are kids and addicts no matter what banner they fly.


Actually, he said that research has shown that when UPC events come to large cities, porn rentals stop in hotels. It's all right there on the tape. I've only saved a few tapes from the old days, as "evidence" of the wackiness. This LS tape would be at the top of the list!

Wait, I saved another tape..."Charge it to God's account", by Richard Heard. It was the only time I've seen people crawl to the altar. It's about Paul and Onesimus. Amazing. And he didn't say a thing about the Red Hefer. And the pulpit didn't split in half. But wait, that's a positive UPC example. But wait, he left!!!

I understand that Richard never went along with the pulpit-splitting story.

Wow, how did I go from Stoneking, to Heard, to Tenney, to God-chasers in a short post??
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PS we are non birth control

Sounds like to me, you'd be non-sex.
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Old 04-16-2010, 07:44 AM
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where in cali?
I'm in Palo Alto right now - going to stay at their place in Mountain View the next couple of nights and go to their church probably tomorrow night, since I can't make the Sunday service and still make my plane. Beautiful country out here!!
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Actually, he said that research has shown that when UPC events come to large cities, porn rentals stop in hotels. It's all right there on the tape. I've only saved a few tapes from the old days, as "evidence" of the wackiness. This LS tape would be at the top of the list!

Wait, I saved another tape..."Charge it to God's account", by Richard Heard. It was the only time I've seen people crawl to the altar. It's about Paul and Onesimus. Amazing. And he didn't say a thing about the Red Hefer. And the pulpit didn't split in half. But wait, that's a positive UPC example. But wait, he left!!!

I understand that Richard never went along with the pulpit-splitting story.

Wow, how did I go from Stoneking, to Heard, to Tenney, to God-chasers in a short post??
Seriously? I'd never heard this.
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Old 04-16-2010, 07:50 AM
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Wow! I didn't even see this cool thread and it's already filling up! Way to go yisroelm! I envy your gifts and talent!

I am not the "Ultra Con" type - I don't even like to use the label on those who are. However, I think yisroelm does touch on some important points here.

I have a teen aged daughter and she doesn't wear makeup and does "follow the dress code." However, watching her grow up, I've seen how the whole "self image" thing that girls go through can be painful and really does pile on useless nonsense in demanding that they make certain purchases and support the multi-billion dollar fashion industry.

I think that a complete "natural" approach is often called for - at least from time to time. I see some of the kids she brings home from school and takes to the youth group and my heart breaks for them. There is an element of what I would call "abuse" being marketed here to our kids - IMHO.

However, while what you plaster on you face may indicate some of the pain and conflict within your heart - to completely abstain for "touch up" or tinted Clearasil and lip gloss as matter of "salvation" doesn't line up with anything in the Bible.

I just have problems with the targeted marketing. Real problems.
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But really, he is entitled to his opinions. And maybe he's right, as I've said before: maybe God really does have a list of dressing and grooming requirements for us.
He did for his chosen people, why would he change for the New Testament Church?
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He did for his chosen people, why would he change for the New Testament Church?
Do you believe in following all the OT clothing regulations?
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Seriously? I'd never heard this.

That's what I read. I believe it was in a critique of the "God-chaser" book written by Loren Yadon, but I could be wrong. Very well written and explained. Bro. Yadon was a lifelong friend of the Tenney's and work for TFT for many years. He completely discredited the story from his own eye-witness accounts. I also read....don't know if it was in Yadon's critique....that many believed the pulpit-splitting was judgement, not approval.

Welcome to Cali, by the way!
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I have got to admit!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't been this entertained in awhile!!!! This YISROELM is great!!!

I have never laughed so much!! I am not being disrespectful either. It's just the way
he writes!!!
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