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Old 03-23-2010, 02:49 PM
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Wouldn't that be conviction?
Doesn't conviction bring awareness and an acknowledgment that you need to do something - repent - turn around? You still have to acknowledge you are wrong to do anything that is right.

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Think she would have repented if she hadn't been caught?



Was Stephen more forgiving than God?
Perhaps not. But that too is a moot issue. God uses conditions and circumstance all the time.

It was God Himself enabling Stephen through the Holy Spirit, to realize the temporal is of less value than eternal life.
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Of course there are people who know they need to do good and do it not.

You still have to be aware/acknowledge that you need to turn around and go in another direction. Not ALL people who acknowledge their wrong will turn, but ALL people who do sincerely acknowledge their wrong and sincerely want to act on that will turn.

Who is going to sincerely turn without having an awareness that they need to? That has nothing to do with someone who refuses to turn.
I'm just not sure why this is part of the discussion. If we weren't aware/acknowledge (accept) our sins then we wouldn't repent.

If you want to add "acknowledge" as the first step of FOUR, but I don't see aware/acknowledge the same as repenting.

Lord, I'm a lowly sinner I acknowledge I have made mistakes and need to make a change in my life

is completely different than,

Lord, I'm a lowly sinner, I acknowledge I have made mistakes and need to make a change in my life. Now, that I understand I need you, will you forgive me?
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Lord, I'm a lowly sinner, I acknowledge I have made mistakes and need to make a change in my life. Now, that I understand I need you, will you forgive me?
That's a pretty good prayer. I'd throw in some details of what I done did wrong.
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That's a pretty good prayer. I'd throw in some details of what I done did wrong.
Go ahead.
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Go ahead.
I keep saying the same thing over and over!!!!
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I keep saying the same thing over and over!!!!
I know it's hard to forgive yourself... Go and sin no more!

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I know it's hard to forgive yourself... Go and sin no more!

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There is truth to that, Stephen!
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I know it's hard to forgive yourself... Go and sin no more!


Some folks read Eph 4:28 like this....

Eph 4:28* Let him that stole, steal: no more working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.


Right reading.....
Eph 4:28* Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

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That's a pretty good prayer. I'd throw in some details of what I done did wrong.
What did you done did wrong?
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