Is it Ethical? - Page 11

ILG · #**101** 03-09-2010, 08:17 AM

I am surprised I got so few comments on what Jesus said...

Timmy · #**102** 03-09-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I'm not sure that I follow your logic. It's never okay to lie.... unless God tells you to?

Used to be good logic, back in the day. God told lots of people to kill, after all. Some think He won't tell anyone to break His laws, anymore, though.

See http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=26605.

MissBrattified · #**103** 03-09-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Did Jesus lie, stretch the truth or cover Himself with the word "yet";

John 7
1After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

2Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand.

3His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.

4For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.

5For neither did his brethren believe in him.

6Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.

7The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

8Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come.

9When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee.

10But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.

11Then the Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he?

I'd say He covered Himself with the word "yet", and the fact that He waited until they had gone. Still, it was deceptive. Apparently He stayed in the shadows at the feast, because the Jews couldn't find Him.

MissBrattified · #**104** 03-09-2010, 08:38 AM

Maybe this is relevant:

Mat 21:28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
Mat 21:29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
Mat 21:30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
Mat 21:31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

iceniez · #**105** 03-09-2010, 10:25 AM

I tried something on Sunday I said to myself I was going to be truthful all day. My wife asked me if I liked her dress , I answered honestly that I did not like the style of dress [but that she is beautiful ] , The conversation went on for 40 mins. She was mad because she thought I was making a statement about her. [ even though I said she is beautiful ] Wow It made me wonder if she wanted to hear the truth.....

MissBrattified · #**106** 03-09-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by iceniez

I tried something on Sunday I said to myself I was going to be truthful all day. My wife asked me if I liked her dress , I answered honestly that I did not like the style of dress [but that she is beautiful ] , The conversation went on for 40 mins. She was mad because she thought I was making a statement about her. [ even though I said she is beautiful ] Wow It made me wonder if she wanted to hear the truth.....

I HAVE to ask--how old are you?

iceniez · #**107** 03-09-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I HAVE to ask--how old are you?

Forty four. Why ?

MissBrattified · #**108** 03-09-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by iceniez

Forty four. Why ?

iceniez...tsk, tsk, tsk.

IF you believe your wife is beautiful, the correct answer is:

"Honey, YOU look beautiful in ANYthing." (And don't add any clauses, like, "...but that isn't my favorite style.")

If she asks again, you say, "I think you are gorgeous."

And if she asks again, you say, "It doesn't matter whether I like your dress or not, you are the most beautiful woman in my life!"

Get the picture?

iceniez · #**109** 03-09-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

iceniez...tsk, tsk, tsk.

IF you believe your wife is beautiful, the correct answer is:

"Honey, YOU look beautiful in ANYthing." (And don't add any clauses, like, "...but that isn't my favorite style.")

If she asks again, you say, "I think you are gorgeous."

And if she asks again, you say, "It doesn't matter whether I like your dress or not, you are the most beautiful woman in my life!"

Get the picture?

You are right, and that is what she wanted to hear. Maybe even needed to hear, I was too focused on being ethical.

MissBrattified · #**110** 03-09-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by iceniez

You are right and that is what she wanted to hear. I was too focused on being ethical.

I believe it is very ethical to keep your relationship with your wife peaceful and make certain that she feels beautiful in your eyes.

What was more important, as far as ethics go? Making sure you expressed your opinion about the dress? Or making sure your wife understood that you think she's beautiful?

My husband and I are pretty straight forward with one another. It doesn't really bother me for him to say, "That's not my favorite dress." However, if your wife is hurt by that much bluntness, then I suggest avoiding it!