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Old 04-25-2007, 11:27 AM
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Only shed blood remits sins and that is ONLY appropriated by faith in obeying the gospel in being baptized in Jesus Name in this dispensation.
The Gospel huh? You mean the Gospel in Acts 2 verses 32-36? Cause Acts 2:38 is the response to the previous verses.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:29 AM
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The Bible says clearly that baptism in Jesus name is clearly "for" the remission of sins. It also says "how can sins be remitted except by the shedding of blood".

The blood is applied at repentance, baptism(when done in Jesus name), and in the receiving of the Holy Ghost.

That is why the Acts 2:38 IS the instruction as to how to be born again.

Baptism in Jesus name is "FOR" the remission of sins.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:33 AM
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The Bible says clearly that baptism in Jesus name is clearly "for" the remission of sins. It also says "how can sins be remitted except by the shedding of blood".

The blood is applied at repentance, baptism(when done in Jesus name), and in the receiving of the Holy Ghost.

That is why the Acts 2:38 IS the instruction as to how to be born again.

Baptism in Jesus name is "FOR" the remission of sins.
Accually, GB, the Bible says REPENT and be baptized. Repentance and baptism. They go hand and hand.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:36 AM
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Accually, GB, the Bible says REPENT and be baptized. Repentance and baptism. They go hand and hand.
True baptism will only remit the sins of the repented. Finally we agree on something.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:44 AM
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If one is not dead one must not be buried.

I agree. If one is not repented baptism is to no avail.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:44 AM
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I think my words stand for themselves Elder ... morph them as you wish ... and BTW the righteous are rapture ready.
Dan, how do you interpret who those five foolish virgins are or the churches in Asia in Revelations that were commanded to repent? Are the righteous always rapture ready or do we sometimes need a little tweaking?
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True baptism will only remit the sins of the repented. Finally we agree on something.
Baptism by itself can not remit. What if someone repents and receives the HG before baptism does that mean that they are still sinners until the baptism happens? You are saying the sins are not remitted until baptism period? If so that means God gives the HG to sinners all the time and it does not change them. I know people that have received the HG and notbeen baptized in Jesus name because they do not think they have to. God does not take back the HG does he? The HG shows the salvation process is completed.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:47 AM
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Baptism by itself can not remit. What if someone repents and receives the HG before baptism does that mean that they are still sinners until the baptism happens? You are saying the sins are not remitted until baptism period? If so that means God gives the HG to sinners all the time and it does not change them. I know people that have received the HG and notbeen baptized in Jesus name because they do not think they have to. God does not take back the HG does he? The HG shows the salvation process is completed.
Now I am confused do you believe baptism remits sins for the repented or not???
NO ONE in this dispensation has had their sins remitted until they were baptized in Jesus Name. Acts 10 proves that although they had recieved the Holy Ghost they were COMMANDED to be baptized in Jesus Name.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:48 AM
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Baptism by itself can not remit. What if someone repents and receives the HG before baptism does that mean that they are still sinners until the baptism happens? You are saying the sins are not remitted until baptism period? If so that means God gives the HG to sinners all the time and it does not change them. I know people that have received the HG and notbeen baptized in Jesus name because they do not think they have to. God does not take back the HG does he? The HG shows the salvation process is completed.

I will the bible commands to repent, be baptized in Jesus name, and be filled with Holy Ghost.

A half born child cannot live.

The whole message is a must and not a maybe.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:52 AM
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The Gospel huh? You mean the Gospel in Acts 2 verses 32-36? Cause Acts 2:38 is the response to the previous verses.
Don't you know JT ... there is a movement in the Apostolicdon that clearly believes that the Gospel is Act 2:38
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