Contract Question - Page 11

tbpew · #**101** 02-25-2009, 08:51 AM

GL wrote:

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IMO, the following (when taken within the context of your entire post) was disrespectful:

[*]posting with an angry smilie
[*]Choosing a username that would identify your church and thus, your pastor
[*]Leaving the initials of the pastor and senior pastor (bishop) within the text of the "contract"

I have no problem with the questions you asked, but a HUGE problem with the way it was asked. I'm guessing you didn't sign it, because the OP with your username violates the spirit of the agreement.

GL,
what do you see as the problem with this kind of MANdate, and its associated life conduct expectations, being public knowledge?

If prophesy should be open to examination, why should one man's idea of a required fidelity statement (such as this example) have its sponsor held secret.

Man-o-man, if the contract has validity CELEBRATE IT.

If the contract creeps people out...CELEBRATE the sound of their fleeing non-conforming footsteps.

If some guy says..."HERES the DEAL in MY CHURCH, ON MY PLATFORM", why should there be ANY RESERVATION to this being common knowledge among the brethren?

Help me out here GL, what is your basis for thinking there is a HUGE problem in the WAY its presentation gave occassion to be linked back to the MAN who developed it?

TRFrance · #**102** 02-25-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Sherri I would let someone teach Sunday school that smoked,smoking is not a sin, but it is not good for you like alot of other things that we eat or drink I see no diffrence..

So smoking cigarettes is not a sin? Are we to think that smoking is no worse than eating a greasy hamburger?

Question for you, KW:
In parts of the world where heroin or cocaine are legal to use, do you think God would be okay with a Christian using those substances? (And if not, why not?)

KWSS1976 · #**103** 02-25-2009, 09:03 AM

Thats right smoking will kill you just like that greasy hamburger will clog your arteries and make you have a chance at a stroke or heart attack..

TRFrance · #**104** 02-25-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Thats right smoking will kill you just like that greasy hamburger will clog your arteries and make you have a chance at a stroke or heart attack..

Ok.
You didnt answer my other question though:

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Question for you, KW:
In parts of the world where heroin or cocaine are legal to use, do you think God would be okay with a Christian using those substances? (And if not, why not?)

Digging4Truth · #**105** 02-25-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

So smoking cigarettes is not a sin? Are we to think that smoking is no worse than eating a greasy hamburger?

Question for you, KW:
In parts of the world where heroin or cocaine are legal to use, do you think God would be okay with a Christian using those substances? (And if not, why not?)

I don't want to answer for anyone but if I had to venture a guess at what KW's response would be it would have to be no.

And the reason would be that KW never said smoking was okay. He distinctly said that will kill you which would denote a standing that smoking, in all wisdom, should be shunned.

KWSS1976 · #**106** 02-25-2009, 09:14 AM

Those substances will kill you just like the hamburger or the cigerette so whats you point. When some one uses those drugs it impares they thinking. I have never known a cig or hambuger to do that..Yes it would be wrong to have a stoner come into a sunday school room and teach but cigs do not alter your thinking..

Sherri · #**107** 02-25-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Those substances will kill you just like the hamburger or the cigerette so whats you point. When some one uses those drugs it impares they thinking. I have never known a cig or hambuger to do that..Yes it would be wrong to have a stoner come into a sunday school room and teach but cigs do not alter your thinking..

But they ARE a bad witness, IMO. I wouldn't want someone in a leadership position that had a nicotene habit.

Sherri · #**108** 02-25-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Sherri,

"Pyramid"???? I knew any church named "Love & Truth" hd to be new age!!!!!!!

J/K LOL!!!

Yes, we are now into multi-level marketing salvation.

Sherri · #**109** 02-25-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

What does that have to do with whether or not certain people should be forced to sign a contract to take part in ministry among God's people?

As I have said... there is a specific plan in God's word to deal with sin. If there is something that is considered sin then that should be dealt with per the word of God.

The contract is not in that plan.

I'm just sayin'...........you have to have some rules. If those rules are on a written piece of paper that you want people to sign, I think it's fine.

That being said, I would NEVER in a gazillion years sign the one in the first post, but I also would find another place to go to church where I would fit.

Digging4Truth · #**110** 02-25-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I'm just sayin'...........you have to have some rules. If those rules are on a written piece of paper that you want people to sign, I think it's fine.

That being said, I would NEVER in a gazillion years sign the one in the first post, but I also would find another place to go to church where I would fit.

Rules exist with or without bringing people to actually having to sign some contract.

If you are for making people sign a contract to minister then why not sign the one on this thread?