Yeah, isn't it amazing that the very same Book that tells us that we can resist the devil and he will have to flee from us, also tells us to flee youthful lust.
LOL you can cast the devil out. You are stuck with your flesh.
Its far more powerfull.
You must not fight the lust alone, fight it together with God.
One way to overcome it is to meditate on thoughts of Jesus Christ or saying His name until the lust perish. Or pray to Jesus and call for help. It works for me. Try it.
Sometimes the reason for lust to rise up has something to do with a demonic spirit, especially when it's addicting.
At the risk of looking like I am (not my intention)
I am curious about something.
While I do believe that there is some truth in the statement that a man with a lustful heart will likely lust no matter what apparel a woman wears, I also feel that what people wear does have bearing on temptation, and drawing attention to areas of the body that incite lust.
Do you like chocolate? I do.
I also like little white powdered doughnuts.
Now if my wife or I don't buy powdered doughnuts, I can go for several weeks without feeling the urge for a powdered doughnut.
But buddy, you set that bag on the counter and I guarantee you it wont be there in 48 hours time for sure.
The doughnuts are always available for me to look at, lust after and consume anytime I want, I just have to go get em.
But when they are bared in all their glory through that little plastic see through window on the bag, right there on the counter.......
I am getting the impression that you are of the opinion that it doesnt matter what a woman wears. She could be wearing a dress so tight if she had a quarter in her pocket you could see if it were heads or tails. Her split could be up to her waist and the neckline determined to meet it. She could have more curves than 400 miles of mountain back roads, and showing them for all the world to see....... AND YET STILL she is completely blameless
when guys look and lust.
Am I reading you wrong? If so I apologize. This is the impression I am getting.
If I tell my wife that I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds so I'm going on a diet.
It would be wrong of her to go buy a bag of those evil, little white powdered doughnuts, and come set them on my nightstand with that little see through window in all its glorious view.
Yeah, I'd be wrong for eaten em since I should be taking care of my body and need to lose weight.
But she would not be completely blameless either.
The Bible says to dress in modest apparel for a reason. I think part of it is because God knows how he created men. He knows that even a man not typically given to sinful lust is certainly far more tempted to give in to lustful imaginations thoughts or deeds if the object of lust is bared right on front of his eyes.
Exactly. I'm still trying to understand what it means to have "lust in your heart", as opposed to in your flesh. As if some are exempt from lust, and others are poisoned with it. It's EVERY person's battle, and yes, a man's battle is different than a woman's, because we are made differently. 1 John 2:16 tells us it's not from God, but neither was sin. It's Adam's fault and the Prince of this World. The "donuts" caught my attention.
I believe if we walk in the spirit, it is hard to be drawn away by our lust. IMO it is hard to lust when our minds are focused on Christ.
With men, I understand the battle is worse as far as sexual lust, but I believe that lust can be overcome just like any other lust. It is a matter of choice.
At the risk of looking like I am (not my intention)
I am curious about something.
While I do believe that there is some truth in the statement that a man with a lustful heart will likely lust no matter what apparel a woman wears, I also feel that what people wear does have bearing on temptation, and drawing attention to areas of the body that incite lust.
Do you like chocolate? I do.
I also like little white powdered doughnuts.
Now if my wife or I don't buy powdered doughnuts, I can go for several weeks without feeling the urge for a powdered doughnut.
But buddy, you set that bag on the counter and I guarantee you it wont be there in 48 hours time for sure.
The doughnuts are always available for me to look at, lust after and consume anytime I want, I just have to go get em.
But when they are bared in all their glory through that little plastic see through window on the bag, right there on the counter.......
I am getting the impression that you are of the opinion that it doesnt matter what a woman wears. She could be wearing a dress so tight if she had a quarter in her pocket you could see if it were heads or tails. Her split could be up to her waist and the neckline determined to meet it. She could have more curves than 400 miles of mountain back roads, and showing them for all the world to see....... AND YET STILL she is completely blameless
when guys look and lust.
Am I reading you wrong? If so I apologize. This is the impression I am getting.
If I tell my wife that I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds so I'm going on a diet.
It would be wrong of her to go buy a bag of those evil, little white powdered doughnuts, and come set them on my nightstand with that little see through window in all its glorious view.
Yeah, I'd be wrong for eaten em since I should be taking care of my body and need to lose weight.
But she would not be completely blameless either.
The Bible says to dress in modest apparel for a reason. I think part of it is because God knows how he created men. He knows that even a man not typically given to sinful lust is certainly far more tempted to give in to lustful imaginations thoughts or deeds if the object of lust is bared right on front of his eyes.
The visual with the smilie and the chocolate bunny is actually pretty dead-on. It illustrates the problem with us a lot of times. We sit next to the "chocolate bunny" and pray for the strength to not eat it...instead of just having the discipline it takes to get up and walk away.
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Exactly. I'm still trying to understand what it means to have "lust in your heart", as opposed to in your flesh. As if some are exempt from lust, and others are poisoned with it. It's EVERY person's battle, and yes, a man's battle is different than a woman's, because we are made differently. 1 John 2:16 tells us it's not from God, but neither was sin. It's Adam's fault and the Prince of this World. The "donuts" caught my attention.
Lusting is different than being "inheritantly" sinful. Lust means to covet, long for, desire for - pointedly - to set the heart for.
We can't argue whether or not we have a sinful nature. The Bible bears out that we do. When we covet or set our heart for things that become a "stronghold" - that is lust.
God does make a way of escape. We can't fight our fight with carnal means, but through the spirit.
II Cor 10:4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;
(5)Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
If you think most women think like you,you have alot to learn.
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Originally Posted by meBNme
At the risk of looking like I am (not my intention)
I am curious about something.
While I do believe that there is some truth in the statement that a man with a lustful heart will likely lust no matter what apparel a woman wears, I also feel that what people wear does have bearing on temptation, and drawing attention to areas of the body that incite lust.
Do you like chocolate? I do.
I also like little white powdered doughnuts.
Now if my wife or I don't buy powdered doughnuts, I can go for several weeks without feeling the urge for a powdered doughnut.
But buddy, you set that bag on the counter and I guarantee you it wont be there in 48 hours time for sure.
The doughnuts are always available for me to look at, lust after and consume anytime I want, I just have to go get em.
But when they are bared in all their glory through that little plastic see through window on the bag, right there on the counter.......
I am getting the impression that you are of the opinion that it doesnt matter what a woman wears. She could be wearing a dress so tight if she had a quarter in her pocket you could see if it were heads or tails. Her split could be up to her waist and the neckline determined to meet it. She could have more curves than 400 miles of mountain back roads, and showing them for all the world to see....... AND YET STILL she is completely blameless
when guys look and lust.
Am I reading you wrong? If so I apologize. This is the impression I am getting.
If I tell my wife that I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds so I'm going on a diet.
It would be wrong of her to go buy a bag of those evil, little white powdered doughnuts, and come set them on my nightstand with that little see through window in all its glorious view.
Yeah, I'd be wrong for eaten em since I should be taking care of my body and need to lose weight.
But she would not be completely blameless either.
The Bible says to dress in modest apparel for a reason. I think part of it is because God knows how he created men. He knows that even a man not typically given to sinful lust is certainly far more tempted to give in to lustful imaginations thoughts or deeds if the object of lust is bared right on front of his eyes.
Unlike Joelel, I think you asked a legitimate question. Joelel just wants to make me feel intimidated and appear to look a fool. I am no fool. I will agree with meBNme and say that there are women who go out of their way to exude sexuality/sensuality and most poeple a know them for what they are and as Bro. Stewart said...God tells you to flee from the devil.
I do think that when there is lust in a man's heart that it has very little to do with how a woman looks or what she wears. I know several men who have had sexual addictions and the women, list of women you see them with are many times; quite ugly [no physical beauty], some rarely in their right mind to the point of being mentally retarded, and some will even practice bestiality, and necromancy. When the sexual sins beset you it isn't about anything but the entertainment of the evil spirit in your life and unless you choose deliverance you will never be free from it.
The Bible talks about the weights and sins that so easily beset us - we all have a pet sin...that same thing that comes back to torment us. Only you as an idvidual knows what it is in your life. This is something we have to flee from, give no place to, and have accountability to maintain freedom from that one thing that always seems to come back to you in weak moments.
Paul speaks about this when he tells us that the things he wants to do - he fails to do and the things he struggles with and don't want to do is what he ends up doing. You and I are no different than Paul and each of us have our struggle/problem area that needs God's mercy and grace to cover and deliver us from. The first step is identifying what it is, repenting of it, and take every precaution to keep it from attaching itself to us again. If and when it does...we go through the same process: know the triggers, run/flee from those situations, and run to the foot of the cross.
George - as in curious
I do.
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