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Old 09-04-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

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This is incredible! I just watched the whole thing and to think that we could have a spirit filled, baptized in Jesus' name woman who REALLY loves God and walks her talk, as VP and maybe even President some day gives me glory bumps!
Those are not glory bumps. Your catching a chill because you are wearing shorts.

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Old 09-04-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

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This thread is funny, in a sick kind of way.

First of all, I highly doubt she was baptized "in Jesus' name." I hope she was, but I doubt it. Trinitarians are great at saying the name of Jesus in everything but baptism.

Second, I have never understood Oneness Pentecostal's need for affirmation from celebrities. I've heard all sorts of completely untruthful hogwash about folks who are "supposedly" Jesus Name baptized, the greatest example being Elvis.

None of it is every provable, because those people will never admit to the experience, which makes me think...hmm....it never happened.

Daniel, I love ya man, but you're a little loopy here. You're coming off a little too strong and completely nonsensical.

Dude, there are MAJOR differences between AOG and Oneness baptismal practices. Quit trying to ignore 100 years of history. There is no hybridization here.

Good gravy.
Thank you PP. Obama stopped by Bishop Brazier's in Chicago maybe he was baptized while there? McCain says he agrees with Palin so he has been baptised in Jesus Name. The list goes on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:33 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

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In spite of the words spoken at the beginning of the clip, I still doubt very much that she was in fact baptized in Jesus name. Contrary to what most would like to believe That is a really big deal in the AoG. I'm sure that all the naysayers will start to spout anecdotal evidence about this AoG church they know or that AoG church that baptizes in Jesus name but usually when you chase down the truth of it we discover that it was just a mirage and they actually baptize in FSHG. The AoG firmly denounced Jesus name baptism and believe me I say that they aren't about to change that anytime soon. The only people who believe that are the ones intent on trying to gain affirmation by living vicariously through the lives of others.

Give me 5 bucks for every "he's looking our way..." "They believe almost like us..." thread Ive read on this forum and all its previous incarnations and I could probably retire the national debt of most small third world countries.
Well said Thumper.

The fact is, many if not most AG churches equate Jesus name baptism with the UPC and/or the Oneness movement in general... Therefore many of them refuse and reject Jesus name baptism in large part because they don't want to be baptized in a way that they associate with Oneness churches.

Is it possible she's baptized into the name of Jesus? It's possible, but it's hard to really conclude that from this video. If she is, I'm happy for her of course.

However, it's crazy to me that people want to make it sound like it's something that happens a lot in the AG denomination. When it does happen, its the exception, not the norm in the AG , especially since this is an issue many in the AG have fought hard against, dating back to the early 1900's.
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:16 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

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Thank you PP. Obama stopped by Bishop Brazier's in Chicago maybe he was baptized while there? McCain says he agrees with Palin so he has been baptised in Jesus Name. The list goes on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the words of the late Paul Gregory "Always a whale never a minnow."
In the words of the great Ron Burgundy "That's just dumb!"
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:04 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

This thread demonstrates the ignorance of many...

Some think EVERYONE believes being baptised "in Jesus name" means involking at the moment of submersion...

...others accuse the announcer of being less than truthful in his declaration.
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:12 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

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This thread demonstrates the ignorance of many...

Some think EVERYONE believes being baptised "in Jesus name" means involking at the moment of submersion...

...others accuse the announcer of being less than truthful in his declaration.
And some see a necessity when using the authority of the Lord to necessarily invoke His name. No name, no authority.
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:56 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

I had a friend raised in the AOG...both parents licensed...

When he was baptized he was given the option of Jesus name or the Triune formula and he chose jesus name
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:48 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

The UPC, Apostolic "One God Believer's" are NOT the only one's who baptize in Jesus Name! I currently attend a church that is not UPC, Mark aka Thad calls it Charasmatic.........anyhew the pastor their baptizes in "Jesus Name"! In fact I kept missing the baptismal services and was really curious to know if they actually did baptize in Jesus Name and shortly there after the Pastor preached on the IMPORTANCE of being baptized in JESUS NAME! and then after he preached he proceeded to baptize about 7 new converts in Jesus Name! heard it with my own ears!!!
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:03 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

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The UPC, Apostolic "One God Believer's" are NOT the only one's who baptize in Jesus Name! I currently attend a church that is not UPC, Mark aka Thad calls it Charasmatic.........anyhew the pastor their baptizes in "Jesus Name"! In fact I kept missing the baptismal services and was really curious to know if they actually did baptize in Jesus Name and shortly there after the Pastor preached on the IMPORTANCE of being baptized in JESUS NAME! and then after he preached he proceeded to baptize about 7 new converts in Jesus Name! heard it with my own ears!!!
Is your church Oneness Pentecostal?
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:26 PM
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Re: Sarah palin baptized in jesus name!!!!

Yes they are oneness, the statement of faith is like a typical UPC statement of faith. My Pastor came out of the Free Methodist church. He received the Holy Ghost and felt there was more for him and he has continued on to where he is today. Does that answer your question?
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