Will Smoking Send You To Hell

[DividedThigh]

so true brother, that pharisee that is hiding in people emerges in the funniest places, not good, good post, dt

[tamor]

It probably won't send ya to hell, but it might send you to heaven quicker than you meant to go!

[DividedThigh]

funny tamor, sad but true, lol

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Various opiates were common going all the way back into ancient times.

I thought you meant a tobacco like product. Drugs and booze have been around for many years. We see booze in the bible but not narcotics like opium, I wonder why

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're right. They smoked some hard stuff. Most people don't realize what it was like to walk through a local market in Christ's day. Along with the bustle of the crowd, the crying of the merchants, the buzz of haggling, and the sound of coins exchanging hands, one would see and smell the pipes of many a merchant being smoked as they sat on the ground with their goods laid out in front of them.

People always tend to see the Bible through the lens of what they've been taught....they forget it was a big bad world back then too.

How come we don't see any mention in scriptures? No doubt this occurred in many middle eastern nations, but the idea of it happening in the midst of Judaism is missing from the bible

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's the deal....a drug is a drug. If a drug is sin....all drugs are sin. But here's the deal about smoking....the Bible doesn't mention it once and it was common way back as far as ancient Egypt. If it is a sin....why is it not mentioned? Alcohol isn't strictly condemned...but drunkenness is. I'd go by the same standard. If it doesn't bend your ability to reason it's not strictly condemned.

that is like saying sex is sex, if one form of sex is sin all forms of sex is a sin. Your assertion needs to be supported. You can't just make assertions like that and expect it to stand on it's own

[DividedThigh]

good points prax, i see assumption at work here, lol

[Praxeas]

1Co 6:12 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be enslaved by anything.

[Praxeas]

1Ti 3:1 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task.
1Ti 3:2 Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
1Ti 3:3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

2Ti 4:5 As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

1Pe 1:13 Therefore, preparing your minds for action, and being sober-minded, set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

1Pe 4:7 The end of all things is at hand; therefore be self-controlled and sober-minded for the sake of your prayers.

1Pe 5:7 casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.
1Pe 5:8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

How come we don't see any mention in scriptures? No doubt this occurred in many middle eastern nations, but the idea of it happening in the midst of Judaism is missing from the bible

It was just a cultural and customary thing. In the Middle East it's been customary, and still is, to share a pipe or chew a leaf (can't remember it's name) after a meal. It's a lot like the "peace pipe" customs of the American Indians. These things may have just been taken for granted in the biblical writings. Many customs are like this. The "eye of the needle" reference by Christ and the "tears" (tear bottles) the woman used to wash Christ's feet...all of these refer to things and customary practices that are not really meantioned in the Bible.