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Old 07-30-2008, 02:07 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Yea, this is my first experience with him. I suppose "lively" is a good word... Perhaps "deadly" is more appropriate though.

I've been posting with Benincasa for a good long while now. He took a whole lot of getting used to, but he's isn't as bad as he tries to make himself out to be. He believes what he believes, though.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Literal Fiery Hell, that is the place where all the Trinitarians go.
Whoooo, isn't that awesome? Let's all rejoice with Benincasa!
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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I think it's not the Trinitarians who need to be witnessed to on this thread, it's all of you who think the Trinitarian will be saved even if they believe in a three faced god.
I am no fan of Trinity doctrine, that's for sure...

But this God thought enough of their repentance to fill them with His Spirit. So if they're baptized in Jesus name and filled with His Spirit, who am I to say they're not saved because they believe in the Trinity?

The Acts 2:38 plan of salvation says nothing about Godhead doctrine, so if God thought enough of these people's repentance to go ahead and fill them with his Spirit, I'll leave the final judgment up to Him as to who he's going to let into heaven and who he'll keep out.
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:42 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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You mean the ones who are liberal and allow the Trinitarians to stay in their deception. Warn the people, not just the ones who don't agree with your personal belief systems. You see American Churchanity has no problem with the Charismatics and Trinitarians, Duelists, and New Age Christianity, but they do have a problem with anyone who portrays a Jesus who is not effeminate. Why are the congregations within the Charismatic movement made up mostly of women? Why are so many men within these movements effeminate? What did we think we would accomplish with the whole silent witness method of conversion? Or that all we needed to do was be overly sticky sweet and we would win the Trinitarians.

Crack Jack I will not hyjack your thread any further. Please continue.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

It is not my thread, my friend, but it was certainly hijacked. lol
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:45 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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I personally believe that when the Bible speaks of this fiery place commonly known as Hell is very real and that it is burning even now and that it will burn forevermore.

What do you believe concerning the doctrine of Everlasting Hell?
It's funny this topic has come up. My best friend and myself were discussing this just today...it seems that other denominations do not preach on hell as those of us do in Pentecost. She is a former Pentecostal and now attends a Missionary church. She says they just don't preach it there like they did when she was a kid.

The thing I think is the most disconcerting to me is that we try to "scare" everyone into not going there...I'm not so sure that's the right thing to do. That being said, here's my answer....I believe in an everlasting hell...so much so, I'm doing everything I can not to go!
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

Wow... 11 pages of post and no one has posted a scripture to defend their belief. Can it be proved by scripture that Hell is a place of everlasting, burning torment? What scriptures can you post to back it up... shouldn't that be the bottom line of what we believe?
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Wow... 11 pages of post and no one has posted a scripture to defend their belief. Can it be proved by scripture that Hell is a place of everlasting, burning torment? What scriptures can you post to back it up... shouldn't that be the bottom line of what we believe?
Aquila posted : http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=16282

I reposted it later. I guess I could have copy and pasted all the info, but the link is easier.

Plenty of scripture and some decent thoughts.
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Aquila posted : http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=16282

I reposted it later. I guess I could have copy and pasted all the info, but the link is easier.

Plenty of scripture and some decent thoughts.

Can you double check the link? I don't get anything when I go to it.
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:43 PM
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http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=16282

Sorry, try this one.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:47 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

The angels are in hell walking on earth.

2 Peter 002:004For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment

(They are in hell walking the earth)1 Peter005:008Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about,(here on earth, in hell,) seeking whom he may devour

Math.12: 43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.(here on earth, in hell,)


If hell is fire then why is fire cast into fire ?

Rev.020:013And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 020:014And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.

Hell is tribulation not fire,hell is a state not a place.Hell or tribulation can be any where you are at time of tribulation.

Rev.003:018I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire,(tribulation) that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Rev.011:005And if any man will hurt them, fire (tribulation) proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed

Mark9:9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell firetribulation)
( Everyone is salted with the fire or tribulation of hell now on earth) 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire (Tribulation) is not quenched. 9:49 For every one shall be salted with fire,(tribulation) and every sacrifice shall be
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