Is the Media Unfair to McCain?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

And he's gonna break a lot of hearts.
People's expectations are just waaay too high.

It's like they're making him some kind of political Messiah.

I think you're right. I don't think Obama is going to do as well as some let on...but I'm convinced he'll do better than Bush. If he doesn't, I'll vote against him next election.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm not happy with the way the Republicans have run this country. I'm willing to give the Democrats a shot. If they break my heart....I'll just vote Republican the next election.

So you're willing to vote in the less competent person, because he's a Democrat, and it's "their turn"?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Esther

So you are saying no matter what the agenda of the Democrats is you plan to vote for them?

How stupid is that???

I suppose that if it's ok for Christians to vote for whatever Republican comes down the pike, because of abortion and gay marriage, then it would be ok for someone who believes in nationalized healthcare to vote for whatever Democrat comes down the pike.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I think you're right. I don't think Obama is going to do as well as some let on...but I'm convinced he'll do better than Bush. If he doesn't, I'll vote against him next election.

The question isn't whether he'll do better than Bush, since Bush isn't running.
The question is whether he'll do better than McCain.


As for me, I'm not crazy about either of these two, but I'm more comfortable with the idea of McCain as president than Obama.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I just pay attention.

"Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a "world order" in which "the principles of justice and fair play ... protect the weak against the strong ..." A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfil the historic vision of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect for human rights find a home among all nations.

The Gulf war put this new world to its first test, and, my fellow Americans, we passed that test."- President George HW Bush, March 6, 1991

I missed this post earlier... did you see the dollar bill thingy? Bush was elated that the Soviet Union fell. You were glad too, weren't you? (I've still got that revolving pic of you Nicky Kruschev).

And....

"The regime of Saddam Hussein cultivated ties to terror while it built weapons of mass destruction. It used those weapons in acts of mass murder, and refused to account for them when confronted by the world. The Security Council was right to be alarmed. The Security Council was right to demand that Iraq destroy its illegal weapons and prove that it had done so. The Security Council was right to vow serious consequences if Iraq refused to comply. And because there were consequences, because a coalition of nations acted to defend the peace, and the credibility of the United Nations, Iraq is free, and today we are joined by representatives of a liberated country." - President George W. Bush, September 23, 2003

These guys are globalists who are working to strengthen the power of the UN and the New World Order.

Democrats are Nationalist Socialists.
Republicans are Globalist Socialists.[/quote]
So what?

Obama is traveling the globe right now trying to prove how "global" he is. In case you didn't notice, with the completion of Magellan's voyage (over 500 years ago) the whole world got a whole lot smaller.

Rinky dink countries plagued by famine and pestillance (like North Korea) can threaten us with Nukes today. Do you wanna have to go and invade every tin pot dictator who tries to get a nuke? How about instead if we juswt make friends with more people around the globe? Maybe then our friends will cover our backs once in a while.

But this requires global diplomacy. We must have global coalitions. We mustenhance those coalitions and the freedom they can promise to billions with fair and equitable trade - global trade. Global this, global that. Why global? Becasue we don't live on a cube!

It's not always sinister to want to work for a better world. I didn't call you the anti-christ when you suggested better health care.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Simple request...
Could we please not use this word?

No! I stand with my brother on this one. Peace out.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

In many large city hospitals a large percentage of medical staff ain't from here.

You got that 100% right!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

So you're willing to vote in the less competent person, because he's a Democrat, and it's "their turn"?

I don't see it that way. No President works in a vacuum. They have advisers and plenty of outside advice. Someone who is old and set in their ways, convinced in the dogma of their position is more likely to disregard important advice (for example Bush who disregarded plenty of advice prior to the Gulf War). Obama is fresh and new enough to be more likely actually listen to advice.

I had a manager who was ancient and he thought he knew it all. He still demanded that we do everything "hard copy", using paperwork like it was still the 80's. We got a new manager who was not as experienced. I proposed moving much of what we do to Excel and Access, placing it on the network. I launched an initiative to reduce the paperwork in our office by 50%. The new manager was far more willing to entertain ideas that the previous manager who was set in his ways wouldn't entertain.

Sure, there may not be as much "experience" but that means there will be more attention to detail and conversation about decisions made.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Rico

I suppose that if it's ok for Christians to vote for whatever Republican comes down the pike, because of abortion and gay marriage, then it would be ok for someone who believes in nationalized healthcare to vote for whatever Democrat comes down the pike.

I hope they don't call themselves Christians! Because I don't see how a Christian can vote for someone that is for what God calls an abomination!

But who in their right mind would want NATIONALIZED healthcare? They don't have a clue to corrupt government if they do!!!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't see it that way. No President works in a vacuum. They have advisers and plenty of outside advice. Someone who is old and set in their ways, convinced in the dogma of their position is more likely to disregard important advice (for example Bush who disregarded plenty of advice prior to the Gulf War). Obama is fresh and new enough to be more likely actually listen to advice.

I had a manager who was ancient and he thought he knew it all. He still demanded that we do everything "hard copy", using paperwork like it was still the 80's. We got a new manager who was not as experienced. I proposed moving much of what we do to Excel and Access, placing it on the network. I launched an initiative to reduce the paperwork in our office by 50%. The new manager was far more willing to entertain ideas that the previous manager who was set in his ways wouldn't entertain.

Sure, there may not be as much "experience" but that means there will be more attention to detail and conversation about decisions made.

His "experience" probably experience everything lost on a computer but had paper to back up the company!