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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Jesus after teaching was asked "Who then can be saved." Mt.19:25 But on AFF then question is who can be lost. Baptism not essential, tongues a maybe, suck cigarettes and have the HGB, church attendance optional, no tithe paying, pastor is an abomination. Nothing is essential and anything is okay. It is impossible to be lost.
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You know Brother Epley, a lot of this is probably an over correction or overreaction by many to the years and sometimes decades or even lifetimes of grossly distorted preaching by so many "hardline" preachers that is all the product of THEIR troubled relationship with God, and THEIR insecurity as to wether they are actually saved or not that manifests itself with this constant beat the sheep attitude, heap more incredibly NON BIBLICAL ***JUNK***on them, and then after you have done everything you can to poison THEIR relationship with God , cast them out when they just cant do this stuff!
Unfortunately the reaction so many have is to just give up, throw up their hands and respond to the FALSE image of God created in their minds by so many Phariseeical or Sadduceeical men and say "Thats It! NONE OF THIS brings me any peace, I just cant do it, I QUIT!!!!
I reached that point several months ago sitting in the congregation of a conference where a DEEPLY disturbed man was up ranting and raving about the internet, constantly repeating the name of a website ***HE*** had accessed at the public library of women having relations with animals, screaming that all men with long sideburns are queers, calling all the children in the congregation from 6 to 8 to come down front, then the 8 to 10s and when all the little girls and boys were down front telling them to imagine they were in a hotel in San Francisco without their parents, BUT ( as an aside to the parents in the congregation) telling them "Don't worry....down in the lobby there is a security guard!" And then speaking to the innocent little boys and girls gathered in front of him he says "BUT...in the room next to you there are lesbians! and in the room next to YOU their is bestiality going on! And in the room next to you..."
This of course was the THIRD year in a row I had gone to this major conference, the first year was surprised to hear the story of the pastors wife in the LA area whose husband took her down to the basement and forced her to be intimate with a German Shepherd ( the dog NOT a herder of sheep from Germany) the NEXT year heard the story from the speaker of how he used to give his dog corn cob suppositories dipped in kerosene. So as the third (and last) year rolled around was NOT in the least surprised to hear yet another bestiality tyrade...do YOU see a very disturbing trend here???? I DO.
Went to other conferences where I got to hear that men who wear beards are either effeminate, reprobate or unholy, hear the wedding ring garbage ad infinitum, the colored shirt garbage, watch as the clergy takes over the saints and reduces Pentecost to a spectator sport, and so as I am sitting in another conference months later and the same self hating, sheep mutilating stuff starts, it just hit me so intenseley
ENOUGH OF THIS ........! (Can you say "........" on this board??? evidently NOT well it starts with a "C" and rhymes with trap) "MY DAD LOVES ME AND HE IS *****N*O*T*H*I*N*G***** LIKE WHAT YOU ARE MAKING HIM OUT TO BE!"
I think the capper was the message preached by a very very sick man at the Admit conference where he began to go after the OTHER SPEAKERS (!) at the conference one by one, humiliating and ripping them before he got to the HEART of his attack....some unfathomable tyrade about the "spirit of Zen that influences the way we DRIVE(!?) and of course the message God gave him about the Chicago Bulls BASEBALL team (AGAIN!?) before he got down to his real intent and purpose the attempted destruction of a brother that he cant even begin to compare to with the now infamous line "SMART PEOPLE CAN'T KNOW GOD!!!!!!!" While you can hear the audience of his fellow preachers jumping up and yelling "AMEN!!!!"
No Brother Epley if you REALLY want to identify the root cause of so much of what disturbs you (AND ME!) in the current trend by so many dear people to just chuck it all away, one need look no further than the kind of crowd that you and so many of the rest of us have ran with in the past, men whose fruit (the constant destruction and character assasination going on behind the scenes that you WELL are aware of) demonstrates that with their LIPS they proclaim God but with their hearts they dont even know him at all!
Well thank God I didnt cast away the fundementals of the Apostolic faith, but I sure as shootin' have jettisoned all the man made nonsense that I HOPE is being weighed in the balance of Gods Word by so many of this next generation of preachers!
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