Can a oneness believer make it to Heaven... - Page 11

Jermyn Davidson · #**101** 06-27-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1399

I just don't think that Heaven is a place where it will only be populated by Apostolic believers, even though our doctrine leads me to think that way.

where does the exclusion and/or elitism stop? how about the Apostolics without "holiness" standards-- will they be in Heaven? How about the Apostolics who are members of the church across town that is pastored by a woman-- are they all deceived and doomed too? And the Apostolic women who have their head covered and do not wear open toed shoes-- they are going to Heaven but the ones who don't wear hats and sandals to church are not?

It seems to me that many believers of our faith are just so eager to make Heaven a place prepared for them and no one else.

Jermyn Davidson · #**102** 06-27-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kutless

Are there multiple ways to CHrist?

What does John 3:16 state?

Rico · #**103** 06-27-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1399

I just don't think that Heaven is a place where it will only be populated by Apostolic believers, even though our doctrine leads me to think that way.

Brother, it's hard for all of us to wrap our minds around the idea of people, who some believe made contributions to God's kingdom, ending up in Hell. However, it boils down to asking ourselves what we believe more. Is it the Word of God or our own thoughts?

Rico · #**104** 06-27-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1399

What does John 3:16 state?

Depends on what version you use.

Jermyn Davidson · #**105** 06-27-2008, 01:12 PM

ok, but the concept of that scripture is the same in every translation, correct me if I am wrong. I like correction when I'm wrong.

Rico · #**106** 06-27-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1399

ok, but the concept of that scripture is the same in every translation, correct me if I am wrong. I like correction when I'm wrong.

Well, one glaring difference is that the KJV version says "should be saved" and the NIV says "shall be saved". Changing that one word completely changes what is being said.

Kutless · #**107** 06-27-2008, 01:22 PM

John 3:16 God loves everybody....do what ya want when ya want.....forget all the things we dicussed earlier about babtism.....anything around AD 65ish.

Jermyn Davidson · #**108** 06-27-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Well, one glaring difference is that the KJV version says "should be saved" and the NIV says "shall be saved". Changing that one word completely changes what is being said.

so what does the greek indicate?

Rico · #**109** 06-27-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1399

so what does the greek indicate?

I speak English, not Greek. Not that it would matter, because there is too much other evidence to prove the plan of salvation is much more than just believing. Take Mark16:16 for example.

Jermyn Davidson · #**110** 06-27-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, it's hard for all of us to wrap our minds around the idea of people, who some believe made contributions to God's kingdom, ending up in Hell. However, it boils down to asking ourselves what we believe more. Is it the Word of God or our own thoughts?

God's word means more than my thoughts. But how I think affects how I see the word of God. So say the APostolics have Biblical doctrine exactly right, is everyone else hell bound because they did not understand what we understand?