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Old 06-25-2008, 09:48 AM
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Re: Obama's "Not Exactly's"

For a Forum called Apostolic Friends, this is becoming very unfriendly. I'll just say that I am afraid of what Obama stands for. But I pray for him every day that any warped evil thinking he may have will be healed. We will not put Obama or McCain in office, God will. Calling each other names on this web site is very un God like. I don't get my feelings from the media but by listening to what the candidate has to say and their performance in the past. With Obama, I don't like what I see nor what I hear, every time he opens his mouth he seems to put his foot in it and has to back peddle to get himself out of it. He is someone who came from nowhere and succeeded, which is good. Problem is he has let success go to his head and now has a tendency to look down on the common people.

Pray for our Commander and Chief and our Vice president, They along with our brave military has kept us safe and put a stop to the senseless killing of innocent people by a mad dictator. They are not perfect and I don't always agree with them but they are the best we have at this time. They are who God, not the people have put in office. Every war president has been disliked and even hated, from George Washington to the present.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:02 AM
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Praise God. Because I couldn't stand it if Obama was McCain.

While one may disagree with Obama's positions he's real....McCain is a phony. A puppet of corporate puppet masters. A panderer who has changed his positions in nearly everything for political expediency. I believe McCain is just another useful idiot of the corporate elite.
LOL! I love ya bro but remember it wasnt McCain that claimed to have gotten here "because of Selama"

that phoney line works both ways.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:09 AM
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My point is that I served and was willing to pay that price.
Aquila,You said before that you served during peace time. When was that and what branch if you're not afraid to say. I am a Korean veteran and served five years with the Air Force and loved it. I hate what is happening to our country. It is full of people that only care where the next government handout is coming from. One of the worst things to happen to society was the New Deal.
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i think he disgusts real civil rights folk, dt
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:13 AM
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True. It's funny how so many people try to put the blame for abortions on politicians when the blame truly rests on women who choose to end the lives of their children.
Rico, this conversation isn't about abortion. its about a living baby being left untreated and allowed to die after a failed late term abortion ends in a live pregnancy.

The blame for this kind of thing rests on the society that turns a blind eye to the reality here. the blame rests with those who explain this kind of thing away because they are more interested in supporting their candidate.

before reading Obama's actual words that Adino posted, my opposition to him rested solely on my political philosophy. All that seems so very unimportant when I see how callous this man is to a living human being. He would let a living human die in order to protect his political position.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:24 AM
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Rico, this conversation isn't about abortion. its about a living baby being left untreated and allowed to die after a failed late term abortion ends in a live pregnancy.

The blame for this kind of thing rests on the society that turns a blind eye to the reality here. the blame rests with those who explain this kind of thing away because they are more interested in supporting their candidate.

before reading Obama's actual words that Adino posted, my opposition to him rested solely on my political philosophy. All that seems so very unimportant when I see how callous this man is to a living human being. He would let a living human die in order to protect his political position.
Ferd, let me ask you a question. Would you want the government deciding for you whether your sons would live or die because of their health at birth? Don't you think that should be your decision to make? If a woman is intent on having an abortion, and something goes wrong with that abortion, should the government have the right to make her keep that baby alive? How far should the government go in meddling in the lives of the people of the USA?

Listen, I am against abortion, Ferd. I am against it because I think it's murder, plain and simple. At the same time, I don't think our government should force women to have babies they don't want. Granted, it can be argued that a woman made the choice when she got pregnant. It can also be argued that everything should be done to save the life of a baby born because of a botched abortion. I just don't agree that it's the government's job to step in and make those kinds of decisions for people.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:29 AM
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Ferd, let me ask you a question. Would you want the government deciding for you whether your sons would live or die because of their health at birth? Don't you think that should be your decision to make? If a woman is intent on having an abortion, and something goes wrong with that abortion, should the government have the right to make her keep that baby alive? How far should the government go in meddling in the lives of the people of the USA?

Listen, I am against abortion, Ferd. I am against it because I think it's murder, plain and simple. At the same time, I don't think our government should force women to have babies they don't want. Granted, it can be argued that a woman made the choice when she got pregnant. It can also be argued that everything should be done to save the life of a baby born because of a botched abortion. I just don't agree that it's the government's job to step in and make those kinds of decisions for people.


You are equivocating Rico. On a vitally important issue. The GOVERNMENTS roll here is to PROTECT ALL INNOCENT HUMAN LIFE.

There is NEVER a day when the Government gets to take a pass on protecting the innocent.

Current law allows for a woman to have an abortion. I can't stop that. Nor is that the issue here.

Current law SHOULD however, Not allow a doctor to leave a living baby on a trash heap because it got here by a failed abortion.

You think its fine that Obama considers Abortion sacrosanct and a living breathing human being medical waist???????
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:31 AM
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Ferd, let me ask you a question. Would you want the government deciding for you whether your sons would live or die because of their health at birth? Don't you think that should be your decision to make? If a woman is intent on having an abortion, and something goes wrong with that abortion, should the government have the right to make her keep that baby alive? How far should the government go in meddling in the lives of the people of the USA?

Listen, I am against abortion, Ferd. I am against it because I think it's murder, plain and simple. At the same time, I don't think our government should force women to have babies they don't want. Granted, it can be argued that a woman made the choice when she got pregnant. It can also be argued that everything should be done to save the life of a baby born because of a botched abortion. I just don't agree that it's the government's job to step in and make those kinds of decisions for people.
At what point to we stop allowing people to kill other people? If I don't want my 10 year old should the government have the right to make me keep her alive? Rico this is sick, man.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:35 AM
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At what point to we stop allowing people to kill other people? If I don't want my 10 year old should the government have the right to make me keep her alive? Rico this is sick, man.
That's your opinion, to which you are entitled.
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You are equivocating Rico. On a vitally important issue. The GOVERNMENTS roll here is to PROTECT ALL INNOCENT HUMAN LIFE.

There is NEVER a day when the Government gets to take a pass on protecting the innocent.

Current law allows for a woman to have an abortion. I can't stop that. Nor is that the issue here.

Current law SHOULD however, Not allow a doctor to leave a living baby on a trash heap because it got here by a failed abortion.

You think its fine that Obama considers Abortion sacrosanct and a living breathing human being medical waist???????
Can you show me where Obama said he considers a human being medical waste?
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