You were correct, but how many times have you seen civilian folks at games or in public places that have not placed their hand over their heart during the national anthem?
This, to me, does not prove that he is unpatriotic.
I have seen it and it makes my blood boil, I certainly don't want that from someone who wants to be president.
I give you again the proper etiquette.
When the national anthem is played or sung, citizens should stand at attention and salute at the first note and hold the salute through the last note. The salute is directed to the flag, if displayed, otherwise to the music.
You were correct, but how many times have you seen civilian folks at games or in public places that have not placed their hand over their heart during the national anthem?
This, to me, does not prove that he is unpatriotic.
No, no, no, no!!! It is CUSTOMARY for all politicians. There is no excuse, unless, he is wanting to make a statement. We have found out:
Quote:
"The truth is that right after 9/11 I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11...that became a substitute for, I think, true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security."
Ridiculous for a politician to take that stand. He knows what it means to be an American, therefore, I conclude, it is not important to him.
Good thing too 'cause I would make tacos the national food, replacing hot dogs and apple pie!!!!!
Lord, hot dogs are evil!!! Chili is evil!
I make tacos once a week - just about!!!! Fry my own tortillas. Yummy for my tummy! The best meal in the world - almost! My husband told me he could eat them everyday. Hmmmm, I might see if he means that.
Re: Obama Changes Presidential Seal for his campai
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Well, I am so patriotic that it offends me he would do this. I wouldn't like it no matter who was running.
Would you be calling McCain derogative names like punk if he used something similar for his campaign logo? What you seem to fail to understand is that many of the decisions regarding a campaign are made by other people beside the actual candidate.
In my opinion, calling Obama a punk is very inappropriate.
__________________
Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
Re: Obama Changes Presidential Seal for his campai
Quote:
Originally Posted by chosenbyone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Well, I am so patriotic that it offends me he would do this. I wouldn't like it no matter who was running.
Would you be calling McCain derogative names like punk if he used something similar for his campaign logo? What you seem to fail to understand is that many of the decisions regarding a campaign are made by other people beside the actual candidate.
In my opinion, calling Obama a punk is very inappropriate.
Re: Obama Changes Presidential Seal for his campai
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther
Continuously moving or disrepecting the AMERICAN FLAG is serious to me!
I just watched a video of Obama in Indianola, IA not saluting during the singing of the national anthem. His demeanor during the video appeared irreverent, at best.
To give him the benefit of doubt, maybe his mind was preoccupied, but what I just saw does not sit well with me either.
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Re: Obama Changes Presidential Seal for his campai
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1399
I just watched a video of Obama in Indianola, IA not saluting during the singing of the national anthem. His demeanor during the video appeared irreverent, at best.
To give him the benefit of doubt, maybe his mind was preoccupied, but what I just saw does not sit well with me either.
BTW - Thanks for helping to protect our rights to have these discussions.
__________________
"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow." ~Aesop
Re: Obama Changes Presidential Seal for his campai
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Well, I am so patriotic that it offends me he would do this. I wouldn't like it no matter who was running.
I watched him being groomed for this position a very long time ago, and if anyone here remembers -- I posted that on NFCF. I have been watching him since and drew my conclusions then.
The racist thing is coming more from them than anyone, IMO.
Here we are as a country being moved by his oratory skills and he has nothing of substance and change to offer. I am amazed. Well, not really. Our Hollywood generation prepared the way for him.
I'm not referring the the shout racism crowd in the context of this election. I just made a parallel about what happens when you have people making alarming claims that don't hold up to just simple scrutiny. You will lose credibilty to the objective viewer.
__________________
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
Re: Obama Changes Presidential Seal for his campai
Quote:
Originally Posted by tstew
I'm not referring the the shout racism crowd in the context of this election. I just made a parallel about what happens when you have people making alarming claims that don't hold up to just simple scrutiny. You will lose credibilty to the objective viewer.
I am offended by his podium choice, tstew! A diehard American isn't going to change the breastplate on the Eagle!!!! Sorry, bad judgment. I don't care how you look at it.
My husband told me he could eat them everyday. Hmmmm, I might see if he means that. 
Linear Mode
