The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

So are you saying the man, Christ Jesus, was not God?

I TOLD YOU, WH, I WAS MORE ONENESS THAN YOU WERE!!!!!

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Some suffer from "trinitarianoia" -- a peculiar disorder suffered by many Oneness people.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I TOLD YOU, WH, I WAS MORE ONENESS THAN YOU WERE!!!!!

I sensing another spin off!!

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

So are you saying the man, Christ Jesus, was not God?

In Him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

He was both man and God. Only the flesh died on the cross and after three days He pick it up. Tear this temple down and in three days I'll raise it up.

[Whole Hearted]

I have no more time to waste on those with trinitarian leanings.

[Rhoni]

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Rhoni
Dear Rhoni Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 551


The steps get confusing...I was raised 3-step: repentance, water baptism by immersion in Jesus name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. Now UPCI teaches 7 steps until salvation, and some say 1 step...I hope the one steppers are right...but I'm afraid that we aren't saved until it is all said and done. It gets so confusing to be legalistic! !

Blessings, Rhoni

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I have no more time to waste on those with trinitarian leanings.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I have been called a "Jesus Only?"

The distinctions made is the different jobs done like you are a husband to your wife, an employee to your boss, a neighbor to your neighbor, a friend to your friend. I have NO problem with any language of the NT but the Holy Ghost itself does so many things you could make many distinctions.

You have it totally wrong if you believe that the Holy Ghost is our Saviour. The Scripture that you use from Titus 3:5 does NOT teach that the Holy Ghost is our Saviour! It simply states what I have already pointed out, which is that the Holy Ghost is the Father's servant who seeks out a bride for Christ and brings us to Him for salvation and then walks with us guiding us and empowering us to live sanctified lives that are becoming a bride of Jesus Christ. Notice that Titus 3:5 uses the word "by" which has the meaning, "through the agency, means, instrumentality, or causation of"

The Holy Ghost is the agency by which regeneration is affected in us, but is not the Saviour!

JESUS SAVES He still does
He'll make of you someone new
And cleanse the sin that was.
The Holy Spirit whispers
No more must you be enslaved
JESUS SAVES, JESUS SAVES!

I doubt that you really believe what you have stated. I think it was a knee jerk reaction caused by your Trinitarian paranoia. It's ok to admit you've got this wrong.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

You have it totally wrong if you believe that the Holy Ghost is our Saviour. The Scripture that you use from Titus 3:5 does NOT teach that the Holy Ghost is our Saviour! It simply states what I have already pointed out, which is that the Holy Ghost is the Father's servant who seeks out a bride for Christ and brings us to Him for salvation and then walks with us guiding us and empowering us to live sanctified lives that are becoming a bride of Jesus Christ. Notice that Titus 3:5 uses the word "by" which has the meaning, "through the agency, means, instrumentality, or causation of"

The Holy Ghost is the agency by which regeneration is affected in us, but is not the Saviour!

JESUS SAVES He still does
He'll make of you someone new
And cleanse the sin that was.
The Holy Spirit whispers
No more must you be enslaved
JESUS SAVES, JESUS SAVES!

I doubt that you really believe what you have stated. I think it was a knee jerk reaction caused by your Trinitarian paranoia. It's ok to admit you've got this wrong.

Epley wrong??? He's got the TRUTH. How can this be???

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I don't believe in three persons in the Godhead. God has manifested himself in three manifestations, but he in not three persons.

God did not die on the cross the flesh did.

Who said anything about three persons in the Godhead? Because one acknowledges the distinction between Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as set forth in Scripture doesn't mean they believe there are three persons in the Godhead. There is only one person in the Godhead and that is the man Jesus Christ. But even Jesus Christ acknowledged that though He was One with the Father there was more to God than what was contained in His person.

He repeatedly stated as He did in John16:28 "I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father."

This is not rocket science folks. You just need a grade school education that enables you to read and then accept what Jesus Christ Himself said. Over and over again when you read the Gospel of John you find Jesus acknowledging the Father as distinct from His own person.

The highest existence is that of spirit being. We are spirit, soul, and body. Even you and I have our highest existence on the spirit level. Unfortunately we won't reach that level until we escape this physical body. Don't dismiss the existence of the Father, Who is Spirit, simply because you can't comprehend how He can exist and function apart from a physical body. When we enter into our spirit existence, free from the limitations of this flesh, we will understand fully. Until then, I caution you against minimizes the Godhead by whittling Him into God of your finite understanding.