Isaiah 3 and jewelry... - Page 107

Socialite · #**1061** 11-02-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Not surprising at all

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Cop out.

MissBrattified · #**1062** 11-02-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

MB, specifically, and to his audience, do you know what Paul was addressing?

We know the Apostles didn't just start scratching together lists of rules. So what is going on that he's making these remarks? Any idea?

Not really; I think he was addressing some disorderly conduct in church, and I don't think his admonition to women to be "silent" in church was a literal command. Otherwise, how would women pray, sing and testify? He was having to address people being out of order. It seems logical to me that in the same breath, he would encourage women to adorn themselves with "good works." He addresses the women again in chapter 5, pointing out that some are idle and "busybodies", and that he prefers the stay home and guide the house and raise their children.

You can fill me in on the rest!

P.S. Did you know that "guide the house" in I Timothy 5:14 means to be head of the house?

"oikodespoteō - From G3617; to be the head of (that is, rule) a family: - guide the house."

Interesting.

Truthseeker · #**1063** 11-02-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

MB, specifically, and to his audience, do you know what Paul was addressing?

We know the Apostles didn't just start scratching together lists of rules. So what is going on that he's making these remarks? Any idea?

Good point

I notice out of all the commandments in the law not one mentions jewelry etc.....

rdp · #**1064** 11-02-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I give you props for consistency then. At least there's something!

I agree with the overall concept of modesty and moderation, and "decorating" ourselves with good works rather than what we wear. I'm just not convinced that the meaning of the passage is that specifically wearing those materials or wearing a beautiful dress is sinful! It's pointing out traditionally decorative items, and saying that good works is the preferable adornment for a woman. I agree with that principle.

I would agree w/ much [though not all] of this, but would simply add that the literal text states "not with gold jewelry, pearls, or costly apparel." I have to have an honest heart & teach/preach these actual words, just as I do Acts 2:38...which we do, including wedding bands, watches, etc.

rdp · #**1065** 11-02-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Good point

I notice out of all the commandments in the law not one mentions jewelry etc.....

Or ciggarettes....nice argument from silence. But, I thought I read "Put O-F-F [not 'on'] your O-R-N-A-M-E-N-T-S.....", immediately after Moses received the Law.

Let me guess...this doesn't mean what it says either...right?

rdp · #**1066** 11-02-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Cop out.

Hmmmm.....107 pg.'s & going....but I'm "copin' out"

???????

Truthseeker · #**1067** 11-02-2010, 09:13 PM

Ezek 16:11

11 I decked thee also with ornaments , and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
KJV

Who is "I"

more later

RandyWayne · #**1068** 11-02-2010, 11:13 PM

Honestly, I do not know why so many continue to argue with rdp (unless it is providing personal entertainment). He is nothing more than the man (at least I think he is one) who decided that salvation comes from riding a pink elephant three times counterclock wise around a flag pole on a Tuesday, in June, during a rain shower.

And yes, if I really believed that, it is entirely possible to twist scripture to support that belief, and NO ONE will change your mind.

Jeffrey · #**1069** 11-02-2010, 11:36 PM

Checking in! Just to stay tied to the party!

rdp · #**1070** 11-04-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Honestly, I do not know why so many continue to argue with rdp (unless it is providing personal entertainment). He is nothing more than the man (at least I think he is one) who decided that salvation comes from riding a pink elephant three times counterclock wise around a flag pole on a Tuesday, in June, during a rain shower.

And yes, if I really believed that, it is entirely possible to twist scripture to support that belief, and NO ONE will change your mind.

Wow...all of this from "not with gold jewelry, pearls, or costly apparel"???

I guess I quoted from the hand-book on how to "ride a pink elephant three times counterclock wise around a flag pole....."? Or did I read that straight out of the Word of God...you know, the same Bible you profess to "believe"!?!?

"Full well you reject the commandment of God that you may keep your own tradition."