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Old 02-28-2007, 10:04 AM
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Sanctification is an ongoing process. It starts with repentance.

Justification also takes place at repentance. It takes place by faith ... by appropriating what Christ did for us at Calvary.
That's what I am saying.
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This post would be excellent at the Justifcation thread

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...?t=706&page=12
Feel free to put it there if you like.
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That's what I am saying.
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:08 AM
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Nope when HE called like Abraham I went!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like Moses I refused!
Like Moses I chose!!!
You would have had no power to go, to refuse, or chose had it not been given you by God. It is not about what you did is about what HE did.
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Actually faith comes before repentance, otherwise one would not repent.
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:12 AM
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Actually faith comes before repentance, otherwise one would not repent.
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:19 AM
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I will bump this. I don't see anything added to faith in Romans 5.1, to be justified and to have peace with God. This is the gate, friends everything else proceeds because one has entered the gate, JESUS CHRIST.

We should not burden new believers with more than is necessary to get started, faith establishes right relationship with God. Like a new born child let them grow, TRUST the comforter to lead and to guide, as they are nurtured by the Word and the love of the body of Christ.
Crakjak awesome ... we'd love to add this to the justification thread ... please visit ... your wisdom would help in that discussion also.
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:25 AM
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Crakjak awesome ... we'd love to add this to the justification thread ... please visit ... your wisdom would help in that discussion also.
Many would refute that, but thanks I will take a look.
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Never said that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A man is not justified without remission of sins. NOr is his sanctification complete without remission of sins. And God's seal on his life through the HGB is part and parcel of this experience. Not three steps three elements blood-water-Spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:32 AM
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The Holy Ghost:
Saves Titus 3:5
Sanctifies Rom.15:16
the Earnest Eph.1:14
Seals Eph.1:13
Keeps 1Pet. 1:5
Guides Jn.16:13
Resurrects the righteous dead Rom.8:11
INpowers Acts 1:8
Bears witnesses we are children of God Rom.8:16
Sheds the Love of God in our hearts Rom.5:5
makes Intercession Rom. 8:26
But outside of that it doesn't do much for us so there NO need to emphasize it.
I think somebody needs to go back to Basic Christianity Class! You will discover that JESUS SAVES! Sorry elder but the Holy Spirit did not die for our sins! Your paranoia about Trinitarianism is so over the top at times. When a person is afraid to use the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the same sentence, his problem is with truth not with the person using such language.
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