Question concerning an evangelist & pastor

Originally Posted by Subdued

Luk 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Luk 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God
over one sinner that repenteth.



What more can I say, really? Wow! I can't believe your comments. I am in awe EVERY time even ONE person receives the Holy Ghost. It amazes me every time just one person is saved. Jesus is so wonderful and gracious - His saving power thrills me beyond words... YES, even when "only" ONE person is saved. I just don't know how to respond to your lack of "awe" and amazement of even ONE sinner repenting. There is joy in heaven - joy in the presence of the angels of God - over ONE SINNER THAT REPENTS! Praise God! He is good and He is still saving lives. How wonderful!

Yes, I am happy one person is saved...

I am just in awe that we pretend that we are experiencing an "apostolic revival" just like in the Bible when we have 1 or 2 saved a weekend and there are 7.5 billion people on earth...

and the Bible states that they were having 3 and 5 thousand at a time getting saved in a world where much much fewer people... how many fewer??

Well in 1800 there were 1 billion people... 1900 1.6 billion... and today in 2007 there are 7.6 billion people... So I'm sure we can do the math...

and they were seeing thousands saved in meetings.... why are we getting only a small fraction of that kind of power??? Where is it???

What are we missing??? What's getting in the way??

well, 2 things:

1. there are 20,00,000 oneness apostolics on the planet, and since we didn't exist until about 1930, which is 1000 people per day worldwide combined... and 20,000,000 is a high estimate, the real number could be as low as 10,000,000....

2. However, there are 500,000,000 charismatics (read: people who are filled with the spiirt) in the world.... that's 12,085 worldwide per day since 1900... and the growth has been exponential since there are charismatic groups that didn't exist until the 70s/80s that have 100 million members...

my point in this is not that we shouldn't celebrate that one soul got saved, that is a great thing that someone got saved... My point is that there is something stopping us from experiencing the revival God gave the Apostolic church in the 1st century, something stopping us from seeing the number of people saved they saw...

Yes, lets celebrate the 1 person getting saved a weekend, or the 200 in a year... but let's also question why we only see 1 a weekend or 200 in a year, and not 3000 or 10,000...

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Claiming to have revival and out sightseeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eating at nice resturants.

They need to return to the old landmarks.

Maybe the prayed and fasted the week before the revival. I think you should be ready for revival not wait til its there and get ready. Sounds like to much gossip to me.

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

Yes, I am happy one person is saved...

I am just in awe that we pretend that we are experiencing an "apostolic revival" just like in the Bible when we have 1 or 2 saved a weekend and there are 7.5 billion people on earth...

and the Bible states that they were having 3 and 5 thousand at a time getting saved in a world where much much fewer people... how many fewer??

Well in 1800 there were 1 billion people... 1900 1.6 billion... and today in 2007 there are 7.6 billion people... So I'm sure we can do the math...

and they were seeing thousands saved in meetings.... why are we getting only a small fraction of that kind of power??? Where is it???

What are we missing??? What's getting in the way??

well, 2 things:

1. there are 20,00,000 oneness apostolics on the planet, and since we didn't exist until about 1930, which is 1000 people per day worldwide combined... and 20,000,000 is a high estimate, the real number could be as low as 10,000,000....

2. However, there are 500,000,000 charismatics (read: people who are filled with the spiirt) in the world.... that's 12,085 worldwide per day since 1900... and the growth has been exponential since there are charismatic groups that didn't exist until the 70s/80s that have 100 million members...

my point in this is not that we shouldn't celebrate that one soul got saved, that is a great thing that someone got saved... My point is that there is something stopping us from experiencing the revival God gave the Apostolic church in the 1st century, something stopping us from seeing the number of people saved they saw...

Yes, lets celebrate the 1 person getting saved a weekend, or the 200 in a year... but let's also question why we only see 1 a weekend or 200 in a year, and not 3000 or 10,000...

That ONE who gets saved should awe us into moving on to other lost souls, bringing them to the Lord one by one - or as many as possible. Each soul saved should inspire us to bring more to Him.

Originally Posted by Subdued

That ONE who gets saved should awe us into moving on to other lost souls, bringing them to the Lord one by one - or as many as possible. Each soul saved should inspire us to bring more to Him.

you are missing my point...

I'm glad one got saved, way better than none...

but that is not the Apostolic Revival described int he New Testament... and supposedly we are suppose to be seeing greater things than they saw...

Where is that?? Because it surely isn't in the modern oneness apostolic church....

[Old Paths]

Sideline quarterbacks.

I just wonder how many YOU have personally had a hand in saving this week??

Instead of cursing the darkness maybe YOU should light a candle.

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Driving through the mountains instead of praying and eating prime rib and steak instead of fasting. Heaven help us.

hehehehehehehehehehe...

I bet you've done it a time or two yourself!

Originally Posted by revrandy

Phil Jones.. I heard tell thru the grape vine your speaking at a church in the OKC vicinity... where?? and When??

Marlow,OK 705 W. Nabor.... October 12, 13 and 14.

Ya'll come!

[Esther]

Good grief SE knows how to stir up the natives.

Originally Posted by Esther

Good grief SE knows how to stir up the natives.

As you can see from my first post in the thread, I am a pretty good tom tom player myself! I knew exactly who he was talking about and chose to beat the drum...


My how I have enjoyed watching the natives gyrate and scream around the fire of their fantasy!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Let the evangelist and pastor enjoy themselves and eat and visit and sight see as much as they want.