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09-15-2007, 03:44 PM
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On a brighter note..I truly believe it is as crazyhomie has stated: Christ came and died that we can be free from the curse. Sometimes we have to fight for and defend that liberty. Thank God for Paul as he wrote to the church in Galacia  !
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09-15-2007, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhomie
No doubt Jesus came to set everyone free including women. The spirit that is in the church today as a whole against women can usually be found with an underlying layer of contempt for a women. Mother/Grandmother, Sisters, etc. I was recently at a conference where the preacher was preaching on standards for women, he was so abusive it made me sick to my stomach.
This is not the spirit of Chirst. This is offense and anger.
To answer your question, the bible is 2K years old and culturally God does not expect this generation or any other generation to adhere to the abusive treatment of women that was and still is a part of many cultures including the middle east. The muslim world today still dengrates women to the extent that the fathers are justified in honor killing their daughters if they disgrace the family. My answer is YES, Jesus liberates all. Where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.
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Coupled with the other post that I had to ask several times to get you to respond to, I am beginning to think that you really do consider the Bible to be culturally biased.
I thought that was where you were heading.
If that is indeed your view, we have very little common ground on which to have a discussion, since you are questioning the infallibility of the Scriptures.
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09-15-2007, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Read the part I enlarged in the quoted post you responded to.
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Uummm...I did. Which is why I responded the way I did...
Where's the disconnect? 
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09-15-2007, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhomie
I didn't say this was a Pastor, why are you so defensive...
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The title and topic of your thread establishes the context.
I am defensive about things I love.
The Church and the ministry are on that list.
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09-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Coupled with the other post that I had to ask several times to get you to respond to, I am beginning to think that you really do consider the Bible to be culturally biased.
I thought that was where you were heading.
If that is indeed your view, we have very little common ground on which to have a discussion, since you are questioning the infallibility of the Scriptures.
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" A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."--Bertrand Russell
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09-15-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
I truly believe it is as you say...but counselors are not accepted by most Apostolic churches especially if they are women  Many still find themselves knee deep in the curse put on them by satan through their men. |
Maybe you can help her then, if she wants help that is. I have some wonderful resources we can recommend.
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09-15-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
On a brighter note..I truly believe it is as crazyhomie has stated: Christ came and died that we can be free from the curse. Sometimes we have to fight for and defend that liberty. Thank God for Paul as he wrote to the church in Galacia ! |
Absolutely, Jesus didn't die to liberate the macho elite. He died for everybody, whosoever will let him drink of the water of life freely...Jesus is free He doesn't cost anything. What we do for Him is our devotion to Him and our love for Him.
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09-15-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhomie
Finally someone with some common sense and intellect. Thank you Rhoni. However, I will say this even though the woman was cursed in the garden, Jesus removed the curse, now women can be all that God has for them to be. There is no more curse. I disagree God will honor your friend. The bible does not command a woman to stay in an abusive relationship, contrary the opposite is true. She obviously has a boundary issue and needs counseling.
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She's beautiful, highly educated, successful, and intimidating to men everywhere too.
If you don't believe me, I can point you to posts that will fill you in. 
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09-15-2007, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Coupled with the other post that I had to ask several times to get you to respond to, I am beginning to think that you really do consider the Bible to be culturally biased.
I thought that was where you were heading.
If that is indeed your view, we have very little common ground on which to have a discussion, since you are questioning the infallibility of the Scriptures.
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Is there anything I said in that you disagree with?
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09-15-2007, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhomie
Is there anything I said in that you disagree with?
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I disagree with your implication that the age of the Bible has anything whatsoever to do with its relevance for us today.
Would you mind answering the question about whether you think the Bible has a "cultural bias"?
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