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09-02-2007, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
no no no....you are changing it now. It was water baptism not water and spirit. Water baptism in Jesus name is not new. Baptism into Christ, by water baptism is also not new
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As much as you would desire to draw conclusions for me ... my words still stand, Praxeas.
I would agree that the baptismal regenerationists are as old as the Roman Catholic church.  oloroid
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09-02-2007, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
btw, Mizpeh... the interpretation we give to the verse in Corinthians is spiritual ... and it reads that way ... it HOLDS NO WATER ...
Read the entire chapter 12 ... it deals w/ the SPIRIT and the Body... rightly divide this Word ... not based on inferential reasoning derived from your pre-conceived soteriological view and prejudice towards those you seek to exclude....but in context.
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I missed this one.
My soteriological view is not preconceived but based on what I read in the Bible especially in the gospels and in the book of Acts.
I have no prejudice toward Trinitarians. My desire is for them come to the knowledge of the truth and be saved not to condemn them.
I don't seek to EXCLUDE anyone from the salvation that comes by faith in Christ. Any exclusion comes from those who oppose themselves and those who are blinded by the false doctrines of seducing spirits. IOW they exclude themselves by not obeying the commandments of the Lord.
God wants everyone to be saved even Trinitarians. So do I.
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09-03-2007, 09:22 AM
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09-03-2007, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
While I see the candidate calling on the name of Jesus at the time of baptism the preferred and biblical method, far it be from me to judge those who practice water baptism with additional confession by the baptiser.
I think it is absolutely bizzare that some only consider Oneness Pentecostals as Christians.
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Unfortunately, Stephen, this is the way you are taught to believe in most OP churches.
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09-03-2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Unfortunately, Stephen, this is the way you are taught to believe in most OP churches.
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I hear you Sherri, but I would argue it is not current in most OP circles... I think it was mostly in the UPC and is a passing thing.
I do not believe the majority of 23,000,000 Bro French documented in his book adhere to such beliefs.
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09-03-2007, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I hear you Sherri, but I would argue it is not current in most OP circles... I think it was mostly in the UPC and is a passing thing.
I do not believe the majority of 23,000,000 Bro French documented in his book adhere to such beliefs.
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I hope you're right. My only frame of reference is UPC where I was born and raised.
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09-03-2007, 11:58 AM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I hear you Sherri, but I would argue it is not current in most OP circles... I think it was mostly in the UPC and is a passing thing.
I do not believe the majority of 23,000,000 Bro French documented in his book adhere to such beliefs.
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I would be very surprised to find any great number within the UPC that would accept a trinitarian as saved. Even here in loosey-goosey liberal land TN most of them still believe that it takes Acts 2:38 to be saved.
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09-03-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I hear you Sherri, but I would argue it is not current in most OP circles... I think it was mostly in the UPC and is a passing thing.
I do not believe the majority of 23,000,000 Bro French documented in his book adhere to such beliefs.
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If this is true ... then the views I've expressed are not in the minority ... or undermining?
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09-03-2007, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I would be very surprised to find any great number within the UPC that would accept a trinitarian as saved. Even here in loosey-goosey liberal land TN most of them still believe that it takes Acts 2:38 to be saved. |
If you read this ... he said this is true for most in OP circles, Matt ... not within within the UPC.
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09-03-2007, 12:09 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
If you read this ... he said this is true for most in OP circles, Matt ... not within within the UPC.
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Bro,
Your main OP church Orgs (UPC, ALJC, etc) do not accept triniatrians as saved. That is why I say the majority does not. Even the AWCF used to be anti Trinitarian. I am not sure what they are now.
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